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This post is written as if it wasn't Apple that introduced the hard-glued battery. They made a consumable hard to replace and backed themselves fully willing in

This post is written as if it wasn't Apple that introduced the hard-glued battery. They made a consumable hard to replace and backed themselves fully willing into this "no win" situation. And now they are not being forthright about the tradeoffs they made and certainly aren't making an effort to fix any of it. That is planned obsolescence. These batteries can be replaced but Apples absolute refusal to enable customer or 3rd party repair make all of this infinitely more difficult. (It's not just screen-on time, a naturally expected decline in operating time. As the batteries age resistance goes up and peak currents decline, so in some circumstances the device would actually hard turn off)

hk__2 9y ago
> This post is written as if it wasn't Apple that introduced the hard-glued battery. They made a consumable hard to replace As others have pointed out in this thread the batteries aren’t hard to replace; this is just not something you can do directly as a user. That probably makes sense; it’d be difficult to make a super-thin smartphone while at the same time provide an easy way to replace each part.
- revelation 9y ago
  The problem isn't necessarily the replacement, even though it's certainly not for a large majority of iPhone customers. The problem is sourcing the battery in the first place. Apple certainly isn't supplying any of them. In the best case you get one that works properly, if you're unlucky you might get one that has lower capacity, and if you're very unlucky you might just get one that puffs up and catches on fire.
  - baddox 9y ago
    They’re not user replaceable. Apple and their certified shops will absolutely repair the battery for you, although I don’t know how many generations of iPhones they support.
    - pishpash 9y ago
      That they are not user replaceable is not under any dispute. The question is why.
  - Domenic_S 9y ago
    > The problem is sourcing the battery in the first place. Not really! iFixit and others have done the hard work for you there (I work at iFixit).
- pishpash 9y ago
  These are completely unfounded guesses. You have no basis upon which to determine whether it's "difficult."
  - rodorgas 9y ago
    It’s not a guess. Phones with removable batteries are thicker than “unibody” phones. Sorry but that’s kind of obvious. If you need a reference: https://www.cnet.com/news/its-time-to-kiss-that-removable-smartphone-battery-goodbye/ https://www.cnet.com/news/its-time-to-kiss-that-removable-sm...
  - hk__2 9y ago
    > These are completely unfounded guesses. You have no basis upon which to determine whether it's "difficult." Those are guesses, which is why I used "probably" and "it’d be". Glueing parts together takes less space so it makes sense they use that to make phones thinner. I’ve yet to find a single smartphone with the iPhone 7’s thickness and a replaceable battery. The Fair Phone has a replaceable battery, but it’s thicker than every iPhone since the 3GS from 8 years ago.

hk__2 9y ago

> This post is written as if it wasn't Apple that introduced the hard-glued battery. They made a consumable hard to replace As others have pointed out in this thread the batteries aren’t hard to replace; this is just not something you can do directly as a user. That probably makes sense; it’d be difficult to make a super-thin smartphone while at the same time provide an easy way to replace each part.

revelation 9y ago
The problem isn't necessarily the replacement, even though it's certainly not for a large majority of iPhone customers. The problem is sourcing the battery in the first place. Apple certainly isn't supplying any of them. In the best case you get one that works properly, if you're unlucky you might get one that has lower capacity, and if you're very unlucky you might just get one that puffs up and catches on fire.
- baddox 9y ago
  They’re not user replaceable. Apple and their certified shops will absolutely repair the battery for you, although I don’t know how many generations of iPhones they support.
  - pishpash 9y ago
    That they are not user replaceable is not under any dispute. The question is why.
- Domenic_S 9y ago
  > The problem is sourcing the battery in the first place. Not really! iFixit and others have done the hard work for you there (I work at iFixit).
pishpash 9y ago
These are completely unfounded guesses. You have no basis upon which to determine whether it's "difficult."
- rodorgas 9y ago
  It’s not a guess. Phones with removable batteries are thicker than “unibody” phones. Sorry but that’s kind of obvious. If you need a reference: https://www.cnet.com/news/its-time-to-kiss-that-removable-smartphone-battery-goodbye/ https://www.cnet.com/news/its-time-to-kiss-that-removable-sm...
- hk__2 9y ago
  > These are completely unfounded guesses. You have no basis upon which to determine whether it's "difficult." Those are guesses, which is why I used "probably" and "it’d be". Glueing parts together takes less space so it makes sense they use that to make phones thinner. I’ve yet to find a single smartphone with the iPhone 7’s thickness and a replaceable battery. The Fair Phone has a replaceable battery, but it’s thicker than every iPhone since the 3GS from 8 years ago.