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https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-future-home/ https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-fu... Basically, they're still

https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-future-home/ https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-fu... Basically, they're still under the Mozilla umbrella for legal and fiscal reasons, but all development and operations are completely separate from Mozilla and Firefox. Thunderbird has always been and continues to be a viable email client-- it just hasn't seen any meaningful development for a heck of a long time. It still _works_. Anyway, hopefully this means development will pick up. It's kinda amazing that it doesn't have multirow views yet.

ttoinou 9y ago
multirow views What do you mean ?
- hendersoon 9y ago
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213945 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213945 "Reported: 15 years ago" That bug epitomizes how Thunderbird development has stalled for a very, very, very long time.
  - netmare 9y ago
    Has it stalled, though? Perhaps they don't see it as a worthwhile feature to focus on. I'm OK with that, even though I'd love to see it implemented. Firefox, OTOH, finally resolved a much more trivial issue 17 years after it was first reported (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92737 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92737) and I'd hardly call that project stalled.
    - hendersoon 9y ago
      Obviously they decided not to focus on that particular feature, yes. Given its importance, seen as a table stakes UI feature by most other email clients, that clearly indicates development is stalled.
      - yorwba 9y ago
        You obviously believe that it's important, but maybe the Thunderbird maintainers don't? I have never had any problem with it, and I'm probably not alone.
        jmiserez 9y ago
        You’re not alone. I read the comments in the bug linked above. It’s funny that some of the rants mention “I’m switching to X” where X isn’t even around anymore today. TB still works after all this time.
  - bigbugbag 9y ago
    Unrelated to thunderbird, more like how mozilla development works or does not. A new of bugs have been sitting for over 10 years, though they're usually silently closed after a while until someone notices and reopens them. It could even be something said about other projects who also have bugs sitting for years.
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- netmare 9y ago
  It's about being able to display multiple rows of info in each item of the emails/threads panel. Something that I found quite useful in Opera Mail, e.g.: https://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/60b72ca2-7a26-e011-b47f-0200d897d049_4_full.png?format=jpg&width=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=false https://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/60b72ca2-7a26-e011-b47f-... In Thunderbird, when using a 3-vertical panel layout, the columns get squished (especially long subject lines). It's not a big thing, but I would gladly trade half the vertical space for the ability to fit a couple more fields, like tags and size.

ttoinou 9y ago

multirow views What do you mean ?

hendersoon 9y ago
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213945 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213945 "Reported: 15 years ago" That bug epitomizes how Thunderbird development has stalled for a very, very, very long time.
- netmare 9y ago
  Has it stalled, though? Perhaps they don't see it as a worthwhile feature to focus on. I'm OK with that, even though I'd love to see it implemented. Firefox, OTOH, finally resolved a much more trivial issue 17 years after it was first reported (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92737 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92737) and I'd hardly call that project stalled.
  - hendersoon 9y ago
    Obviously they decided not to focus on that particular feature, yes. Given its importance, seen as a table stakes UI feature by most other email clients, that clearly indicates development is stalled.
    - yorwba 9y ago
      You obviously believe that it's important, but maybe the Thunderbird maintainers don't? I have never had any problem with it, and I'm probably not alone.
      - jmiserez 9y ago
        You’re not alone. I read the comments in the bug linked above. It’s funny that some of the rants mention “I’m switching to X” where X isn’t even around anymore today. TB still works after all this time.
- bigbugbag 9y ago
  Unrelated to thunderbird, more like how mozilla development works or does not. A new of bugs have been sitting for over 10 years, though they're usually silently closed after a while until someone notices and reopens them. It could even be something said about other projects who also have bugs sitting for years.
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netmare 9y ago
It's about being able to display multiple rows of info in each item of the emails/threads panel. Something that I found quite useful in Opera Mail, e.g.: https://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/60b72ca2-7a26-e011-b47f-0200d897d049_4_full.png?format=jpg&width=1600&height=1600&mode=min&upscale=false https://d2.alternativeto.net/dist/s/60b72ca2-7a26-e011-b47f-... In Thunderbird, when using a 3-vertical panel layout, the columns get squished (especially long subject lines). It's not a big thing, but I would gladly trade half the vertical space for the ability to fit a couple more fields, like tags and size.