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Where's the next Hollywood? This question has always been absurd to me. Silicon Valley is here to stay.

winslow 9y ago
Obviously Bollywood.
santaclaus 9y ago
> Where's the next Hollywood? Georgia, it would seem. If being in New York isn't the key point of the show, chances are it is filmed in Georgia nowadays.
- jedberg 9y ago
  Filmed yes. But then where does the film go for editing, color correction, adr, and other post? Hollywood. And then the executives screen it and then it’s dostributed and all of that is in LA too. The expensive parts have moved elsewhere (principal photography and special effects) because it’s easy to transmit data, but all the stuff that comes before and after still happens in Hollywood for the most part.
  - disordinary 9y ago
    There are post production facilities all over the world, for instance Wellington has a cluster of world class facilities in the suburb of Miramar like Park Road Post and Weta Digital With 2Gbps fibre connections there is no reason to think that places are required to be geographically in the same area.
  - owenmarshall 9y ago
    > The expensive parts have moved elsewhere (principal photography and special effects) because it’s easy to transmit data, but all the stuff that comes before and after still happens in Hollywood for the most part. So you'll concede that a strong cost play exists to move away, and are basically betting that inertia maintains the status quo? Good luck. ;)
    - jedberg 9y ago
      Absolutely. I myself run my company as fully remote for this very reason. But I think I'm pretty leading edge in that respect -- most companies still believe having an office is important.
  - creaghpatr 9y ago
    Georgia will soon pass a post-production tax incentive designed to draw the other parts of the industry to Atlanta and capitalize on the production momentum.
- addicted 9y ago
  It was Louisiana before that until Georgia started offering better tax breaks. Companies don't seem to find it very hard to move filming locations based on what state is offering them the most money.
wellboy 9y ago
Yes, it's like what's going to be the next craigslist. Craiglist has unbelievable traction, just as Silicon Valley. If you want to be the next Silicon Valley or even 1/10th of its quality, it requires at least 20 years of work.
- synaesthesisx 9y ago
  I would disagree - as someone from Cambridge/Boston that frequents SF I would say Silicon Valley isn't all it's hyped to be. The majority of startups I come across out there are simply looking to get rich quick and are in it for the game rather than actually innovating anything. When it comes to actual innovation I have yet to find anything comes close to the level Cambridge/Boston is on, especially in life sciences & AI. If only it weren't for the frigid winters... https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/startups/2017/10/boston-is-no-1-in-the-country-for-startups-again.html https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/startups/2017/10/bos...
  - ng12 9y ago
    As someone who would love to move back to Boston that's a very hard sell. Especially when the biggest success story is Hubspot (of "Disrupted" fame) which is more Silicon Valley than Silicon Valley is.
    - ghaff 9y ago
      A lot of perception is flavored by the fact that a lot of the time "tech" gets defined as what dominates Silicon Valley. So you get taxi companies counted as tech and bio/pharma or fintech often not. That said, while California does have a lot more VC funding, New York and Massachusetts and #2 and #3 even though Boston/Cambridge in particular tend to not be mentioned in these kind of discussions. https://ssti.org/blog/useful-stats-venture-capital-dollars-and-deals-state-2010-2015 https://ssti.org/blog/useful-stats-venture-capital-dollars-a...
    - drharby 9y ago
      The fact that hubspot is the premeir success startup in boston signals to me the journey BOS has to go to compete with sv. That said tho, the cambridge intellectual bubble is real and has its advantages
tensor 9y ago
Toronto has been Hollywood North for a long time now. It's interesting to see how defensive people from SV are on this topic. No empire lasts forever and SV won't either. It's naive to genuinely believe that there are no smart people outside of SV, or that everyone wants to move to SV.
- Apocryphon 9y ago
  Surely it's Vancouver if we're going to talk Canada.
nostrademons 9y ago
New Zealand. Lord of the Rings, King Kong, Whale Rider, The Last Samurai, The Hobbit, Bridge to Terabithia, Avatar, The Lovely Bones, etc.
- rconti 9y ago
  Too expensive, too remote. It's going to be North America when cost isn't a huge factor, and Eastern Europe when it is.
walshemj 9y ago
oh you mean north Hollywood aka Vancouver :-)

Obviously Bollywood.

> Where's the next Hollywood? Georgia, it would seem. If being in New York isn't the key point of the show, chances are it is filmed in Georgia nowadays.

jedberg 9y ago
Filmed yes. But then where does the film go for editing, color correction, adr, and other post? Hollywood. And then the executives screen it and then it’s dostributed and all of that is in LA too. The expensive parts have moved elsewhere (principal photography and special effects) because it’s easy to transmit data, but all the stuff that comes before and after still happens in Hollywood for the most part.
- disordinary 9y ago
  There are post production facilities all over the world, for instance Wellington has a cluster of world class facilities in the suburb of Miramar like Park Road Post and Weta Digital With 2Gbps fibre connections there is no reason to think that places are required to be geographically in the same area.
- owenmarshall 9y ago
  > The expensive parts have moved elsewhere (principal photography and special effects) because it’s easy to transmit data, but all the stuff that comes before and after still happens in Hollywood for the most part. So you'll concede that a strong cost play exists to move away, and are basically betting that inertia maintains the status quo? Good luck. ;)
  - jedberg 9y ago
    Absolutely. I myself run my company as fully remote for this very reason. But I think I'm pretty leading edge in that respect -- most companies still believe having an office is important.
- creaghpatr 9y ago
  Georgia will soon pass a post-production tax incentive designed to draw the other parts of the industry to Atlanta and capitalize on the production momentum.
addicted 9y ago
It was Louisiana before that until Georgia started offering better tax breaks. Companies don't seem to find it very hard to move filming locations based on what state is offering them the most money.

wellboy 9y ago

Yes, it's like what's going to be the next craigslist. Craiglist has unbelievable traction, just as Silicon Valley. If you want to be the next Silicon Valley or even 1/10th of its quality, it requires at least 20 years of work.

synaesthesisx 9y ago
I would disagree - as someone from Cambridge/Boston that frequents SF I would say Silicon Valley isn't all it's hyped to be. The majority of startups I come across out there are simply looking to get rich quick and are in it for the game rather than actually innovating anything. When it comes to actual innovation I have yet to find anything comes close to the level Cambridge/Boston is on, especially in life sciences & AI. If only it weren't for the frigid winters... https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/startups/2017/10/boston-is-no-1-in-the-country-for-startups-again.html https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/startups/2017/10/bos...
- ng12 9y ago
  As someone who would love to move back to Boston that's a very hard sell. Especially when the biggest success story is Hubspot (of "Disrupted" fame) which is more Silicon Valley than Silicon Valley is.
  - ghaff 9y ago
    A lot of perception is flavored by the fact that a lot of the time "tech" gets defined as what dominates Silicon Valley. So you get taxi companies counted as tech and bio/pharma or fintech often not. That said, while California does have a lot more VC funding, New York and Massachusetts and #2 and #3 even though Boston/Cambridge in particular tend to not be mentioned in these kind of discussions. https://ssti.org/blog/useful-stats-venture-capital-dollars-and-deals-state-2010-2015 https://ssti.org/blog/useful-stats-venture-capital-dollars-a...
  - drharby 9y ago
    The fact that hubspot is the premeir success startup in boston signals to me the journey BOS has to go to compete with sv. That said tho, the cambridge intellectual bubble is real and has its advantages

tensor 9y ago

Toronto has been Hollywood North for a long time now. It's interesting to see how defensive people from SV are on this topic. No empire lasts forever and SV won't either. It's naive to genuinely believe that there are no smart people outside of SV, or that everyone wants to move to SV.

Apocryphon 9y ago
Surely it's Vancouver if we're going to talk Canada.

nostrademons 9y ago

New Zealand. Lord of the Rings, King Kong, Whale Rider, The Last Samurai, The Hobbit, Bridge to Terabithia, Avatar, The Lovely Bones, etc.

rconti 9y ago
Too expensive, too remote. It's going to be North America when cost isn't a huge factor, and Eastern Europe when it is.

walshemj 9y ago

oh you mean north Hollywood aka Vancouver :-)