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You can buy a new volt for 20-21k after rebates. Volt also gets 50-60 miles electric range. And can do full speed on ice unlike the i3 Rex

BoorishBears 9y ago
It's actually (slightly) faster on it's ICE. It does feel slightly more sluggish because throttle response becomes more dependent on the ICE, but once the ICE kicks in with the batteries towards the 30-60 MPH it goes slightly faster
- cobookman 9y ago
  https://insideevs.com/bmw-i3-rex-top-speed-depleted-battery-video/ https://insideevs.com/bmw-i3-rex-top-speed-depleted-battery-... BMW i3 max speed on it's ICE is 70mph. Which sucks if you’re going on a road trip. I've only used my volts ICE when going on long road trips. The Chevy volt had no issues going 80-90 on it's ICE. To me the major difference is that the i3 is only a commuter car. And a good second car. Whereas the Chevy volt can be your only car.
  - BoorishBears 9y ago
    I'm talking about the Volt, it's faster on it's ICE from 0-60, but going by my gut it's slower from 0-30 then faster from 30-60 because of the throttle response (and definitely faster from 80-101, the ICE and battery both kick in at full power)
  - rjmunro 9y ago
    Is it possible to run on battery + ICE for a long range trip, or do you have to wait for the battery to deplete before the ICE kicks in? I.e. only use the battery to get the last 10-20 kph of your speed.
    - BoorishBears 9y ago
      You can put it in Mountain or Hold, Mountain waits till the battery hits ~25% and then tries to hold it. Hold will (try to) hold the battery where it currently is. Both essentially do what you describe, use ICE primarily and the battery as a secondary. The battery mostly ends up only being used under heavy acceleration at highway speeds (ie, to get your last 10-20 mph of your speed).
madengr 9y ago
Which rebates? Wife and I tried a Volt, but the rear leg room was horrid. I'm 6'5" and need to put the seat all the way back. Though for $21k by kids can suffer behind me. Holding out for the Hyundai Ioniq plug-in hybrid. Looked at Prius Primes, but the Toyota dealers here in flyover country are all assholes (to deal with), and they won't stock any. I have a Leaf, but my wife calls it a golf cart and refuses to drive it due to range anxiety. Thus she wants a plug in hybrid.
- BoorishBears 9y ago
  Federal rebate is 7k, here in CT there's a 3k state rebate, some places get to stack municipality and power company rebates over that, bringing the final prices to incredibly low numbers.
  - madengr 9y ago
    No state rebates here in KS, though the Leaf rebates were $10k from the local power company + $7,500 federal. Does the new federal tax bill preserve the EV credit? Last I heard it was chopped.
    - BoorishBears 9y ago
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-autos/republican-tax-bill-retains-u-s-electric-vehicle-tax-credit-idUSKBN1EA00H https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-autos/republican-... It's fine, I'd be very surprised if it was repealed, automakers would be left very unhappy since it's been shown time and time again, current EV sales are very reliant on those credits, and they're a powerful lobby.
- cobookman 9y ago
  It's been a while but it's federal and state rebates. Then dealer sticker + dealer list rebate. farmers guild rebate (500$ and it costs 50$ to register). Then we got 0 down 0% financing. This was in Santa Clara, CA. At freemont Chevy. I believe they sell the most volts of any dealer in the world.

BoorishBears 9y ago

It's actually (slightly) faster on it's ICE. It does feel slightly more sluggish because throttle response becomes more dependent on the ICE, but once the ICE kicks in with the batteries towards the 30-60 MPH it goes slightly faster

cobookman 9y ago
https://insideevs.com/bmw-i3-rex-top-speed-depleted-battery-video/ https://insideevs.com/bmw-i3-rex-top-speed-depleted-battery-... BMW i3 max speed on it's ICE is 70mph. Which sucks if you’re going on a road trip. I've only used my volts ICE when going on long road trips. The Chevy volt had no issues going 80-90 on it's ICE. To me the major difference is that the i3 is only a commuter car. And a good second car. Whereas the Chevy volt can be your only car.
- BoorishBears 9y ago
  I'm talking about the Volt, it's faster on it's ICE from 0-60, but going by my gut it's slower from 0-30 then faster from 30-60 because of the throttle response (and definitely faster from 80-101, the ICE and battery both kick in at full power)
- rjmunro 9y ago
  Is it possible to run on battery + ICE for a long range trip, or do you have to wait for the battery to deplete before the ICE kicks in? I.e. only use the battery to get the last 10-20 kph of your speed.
  - BoorishBears 9y ago
    You can put it in Mountain or Hold, Mountain waits till the battery hits ~25% and then tries to hold it. Hold will (try to) hold the battery where it currently is. Both essentially do what you describe, use ICE primarily and the battery as a secondary. The battery mostly ends up only being used under heavy acceleration at highway speeds (ie, to get your last 10-20 mph of your speed).

madengr 9y ago

Which rebates? Wife and I tried a Volt, but the rear leg room was horrid. I'm 6'5" and need to put the seat all the way back. Though for $21k by kids can suffer behind me. Holding out for the Hyundai Ioniq plug-in hybrid. Looked at Prius Primes, but the Toyota dealers here in flyover country are all assholes (to deal with), and they won't stock any. I have a Leaf, but my wife calls it a golf cart and refuses to drive it due to range anxiety. Thus she wants a plug in hybrid.

BoorishBears 9y ago
Federal rebate is 7k, here in CT there's a 3k state rebate, some places get to stack municipality and power company rebates over that, bringing the final prices to incredibly low numbers.
- madengr 9y ago
  No state rebates here in KS, though the Leaf rebates were $10k from the local power company + $7,500 federal. Does the new federal tax bill preserve the EV credit? Last I heard it was chopped.
  - BoorishBears 9y ago
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-autos/republican-tax-bill-retains-u-s-electric-vehicle-tax-credit-idUSKBN1EA00H https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-autos/republican-... It's fine, I'd be very surprised if it was repealed, automakers would be left very unhappy since it's been shown time and time again, current EV sales are very reliant on those credits, and they're a powerful lobby.
cobookman 9y ago
It's been a while but it's federal and state rebates. Then dealer sticker + dealer list rebate. farmers guild rebate (500$ and it costs 50$ to register). Then we got 0 down 0% financing. This was in Santa Clara, CA. At freemont Chevy. I believe they sell the most volts of any dealer in the world.