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Don’t understand the downvote you’re facing. Whatsapp is operating in France so it must comply with the ruling here. Moreover the fact that they hide from the C

Don’t understand the downvote you’re facing. Whatsapp is operating in France so it must comply with the ruling here. Moreover the fact that they hide from the CNIL the data they are sharing probably mean they do not comply to the regulations (which are here to protect people). Too bad the sanctions are not dissuasive enough to force compliance. Politicians are allowing this situation from too long (same with taxes avoidance schemes).

hartator 9y ago
It will be nightmare if you have to comply to every laws of a country just because you have users in it.
- edran 9y ago
  It's not a nightmare, it's a responsibility towards the people who use your product, and the society that allows you to gain wealth from such usage. If you want to simplify the system, lobby for multiple nations to adopt a good standard, or move on.
  - hartator 9y ago
    So, are you going to report NK users to them if you host dissident contents? You have to comply to your local laws, not foreign laws.
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]
    - notimetorelax 9y ago
      You have a choice of not offering your services in these countries.
- chaosite 9y ago
  This isn't even a law, it's an order. Don't want to comply? Don't accept users from that country. That's the reality of a multi-national...
  - hartator 9y ago
    After all this hypocrite talk about net neutrality, it's suddenly okay to block users based on their country?
    - chaosite 9y ago
      What does net neutrality have to do that? That talk is about the role ISPs play on the Internet, and whether practices like zero-rating and shaping based on source and preferring your own services should be allowed. Yes, if you want to provide services on the Internet and don't want to comply with the laws of some countries, then you have to make sure you don't provide services to those users. You see it all the time in copyright related situations, where companies lack the rights to distribute something in certain countries -- so, Spotify doesn't work in every country, for example. Neither does Amazon Prime Video. Netflix has a different selection in each country it operates in, and is also not available in every country. What's the difference?
- realusername 9y ago
  It's pretty much like this for every country, Whatsapp can always set app to be not available for some countries if they are not happy with the local laws.
- mrguyorama 9y ago
  It would be a nightmare to comply with the laws of a country I am visiting
- dguest 9y ago
  What's the alternative? You comply with the laws in your country of choice?
  - hartator 9y ago
    Comply with the laws where you based at. Other countries can't enforce their laws just because you communicate with their residents.
    - PeterisP 9y ago
      Well, that's not true - they certainly can, and (as in this case) are going to, the EU GDPR restrictions on personal data privacy (starting from May 2018) will affect many, many non-EU companies, starting from the largest global ones. Perhaps you meant to say that other countries shouldn't enforce their laws just because you communicate with their residents?
- 1_2__4 9y ago
  Oh boy are you in for some bad news.

hartator 9y ago

It will be nightmare if you have to comply to every laws of a country just because you have users in it.

edran 9y ago
It's not a nightmare, it's a responsibility towards the people who use your product, and the society that allows you to gain wealth from such usage. If you want to simplify the system, lobby for multiple nations to adopt a good standard, or move on.
- hartator 9y ago
  So, are you going to report NK users to them if you host dissident contents? You have to comply to your local laws, not foreign laws.
  - deleted 9y ago
    [deleted]
  - notimetorelax 9y ago
    You have a choice of not offering your services in these countries.
chaosite 9y ago
This isn't even a law, it's an order. Don't want to comply? Don't accept users from that country. That's the reality of a multi-national...
- hartator 9y ago
  After all this hypocrite talk about net neutrality, it's suddenly okay to block users based on their country?
  - chaosite 9y ago
    What does net neutrality have to do that? That talk is about the role ISPs play on the Internet, and whether practices like zero-rating and shaping based on source and preferring your own services should be allowed. Yes, if you want to provide services on the Internet and don't want to comply with the laws of some countries, then you have to make sure you don't provide services to those users. You see it all the time in copyright related situations, where companies lack the rights to distribute something in certain countries -- so, Spotify doesn't work in every country, for example. Neither does Amazon Prime Video. Netflix has a different selection in each country it operates in, and is also not available in every country. What's the difference?
realusername 9y ago
It's pretty much like this for every country, Whatsapp can always set app to be not available for some countries if they are not happy with the local laws.
mrguyorama 9y ago
It would be a nightmare to comply with the laws of a country I am visiting
dguest 9y ago
What's the alternative? You comply with the laws in your country of choice?
- hartator 9y ago
  Comply with the laws where you based at. Other countries can't enforce their laws just because you communicate with their residents.
  - PeterisP 9y ago
    Well, that's not true - they certainly can, and (as in this case) are going to, the EU GDPR restrictions on personal data privacy (starting from May 2018) will affect many, many non-EU companies, starting from the largest global ones. Perhaps you meant to say that other countries shouldn't enforce their laws just because you communicate with their residents?
1_2__4 9y ago
Oh boy are you in for some bad news.