4 ms·

Does anyone know what they do share besides phone number? And what could they share? I know end to end message encryption is a thing, but can the app still sup

Does anyone know what they do share besides phone number? And what could they share? I know end to end message encryption is a thing, but can the app still supply your messages or analysis of them to FB?

skj 9y ago
The who-spoke-to-whom-and-when data is... well certainly not nothing. Quite powerful, I'd think.
soziawa 9y ago
They say that they collect the following: "We collect device-specific information when you install, access, or use our Services. This includes information such as hardware model, operating system information, browser information, IP address, mobile network information including phone number, and device identifiers. We collect device location information if you use our location features, such as when you choose to share your location with your contacts, view locations nearby or those others have shared with you, and the like, and for diagnostics and troubleshooting purposes such as if you are having trouble with our app’s location features." The IP-Adress together with the facebook plugins on many websites allow lots of tracking.
- lucb1e 9y ago
  You should also have a look at the logcat messages WhatsApp outputs. I got a forensics case two years ago in class where someone had WhatsApp installed and it was crazy: every time you unlock your phone or start charging or do anything at all, it is logged by that thing. I don't know whether they upload it, but if they aren't using it, why the hell are they monitoring and logging it otherwise?
deleted 9y ago
[deleted]
drdrey 9y ago
They can presumably not share the content of the messages, but they could share the metadata around them. Who you are connected to, how often you contact them, what time of day, potentially some location information, how long you spend in the app...
- soziawa 9y ago
  they share all location information
- mbesto 9y ago
  This: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/your-phone-metadata-is-more-revealing-than-you-think https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/your-phone-metadata-is-... Facebook, for example, can probably establish who my wife is, even if I don't explicitly put her in my profile, and who effectively are my affinity groups (friends/family/etc).

skj 9y ago

The who-spoke-to-whom-and-when data is... well certainly not nothing. Quite powerful, I'd think.

soziawa 9y ago

They say that they collect the following: "We collect device-specific information when you install, access, or use our Services. This includes information such as hardware model, operating system information, browser information, IP address, mobile network information including phone number, and device identifiers. We collect device location information if you use our location features, such as when you choose to share your location with your contacts, view locations nearby or those others have shared with you, and the like, and for diagnostics and troubleshooting purposes such as if you are having trouble with our app’s location features." The IP-Adress together with the facebook plugins on many websites allow lots of tracking.

lucb1e 9y ago
You should also have a look at the logcat messages WhatsApp outputs. I got a forensics case two years ago in class where someone had WhatsApp installed and it was crazy: every time you unlock your phone or start charging or do anything at all, it is logged by that thing. I don't know whether they upload it, but if they aren't using it, why the hell are they monitoring and logging it otherwise?

deleted 9y ago

[deleted]

drdrey 9y ago

They can presumably not share the content of the messages, but they could share the metadata around them. Who you are connected to, how often you contact them, what time of day, potentially some location information, how long you spend in the app...

soziawa 9y ago
they share all location information
mbesto 9y ago
This: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/your-phone-metadata-is-more-revealing-than-you-think https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/your-phone-metadata-is-... Facebook, for example, can probably establish who my wife is, even if I don't explicitly put her in my profile, and who effectively are my affinity groups (friends/family/etc).