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Yeah, if we want latency added to literally every action... I understand that what you're saying is a possibility, but I sure hope it doesn't come to pass.

TheRealPomax 9y ago
New technology starts with the above-well-off, using tech you currency consider "absurdly unattaible to the masses" (like cars in the 20s, or telephone in the 40s, or computers in the 60s, or 24/7 internet in the 90s): for instance, when you just get a basically free gigabit connection straight into the backbone (like in a new upscale Japanese apartment building) the very idea that latency could even be a problem just... disappears. In that context, just attaching an interactive window to a remote running process (as long as it can stream faster than whatever is your minimum acceptable framerate at your minimum acceptable resolution) is literally indistinguishable from running locally. So I frankly do hope that comes to pass (as long as I also get to keep being able to build a desktop computer for working offline).
- adrianN 9y ago
  Latency and bandwidth are different though. Your GBit connection won't help you access servers on the other side of the Atlantic.
  - TheRealPomax 9y ago
    I have no idea why you would need to leave your country in a world where we're back to thin clients and remote processing. Pretty sure the most obvious place for that processing to take place is at what used to be ISPs and have in this hypothetical future become Interactive Service Providers rather than "internet" service providers, with low latency, high bandwidth hubs in or near your city (and more likely, multiple hubs per city).
woogley 9y ago
The catalyst of such a shift could be a very good thing, e.g. exceptional internet speeds everywhere
baybal2 9y ago
Now I expect that there will come usability experts from google/facebook/amazon and tell you that an average user does not event know what latency is. Native apps have won over web app ecosystem, plainly and simple. WASM will not change things even a bit to root causes of people deciding to use native apps over web apps.
- greiskul 9y ago
  Google and amazon certainly think the average user cares about latency, even if they don't know what it is: https://blog.gigaspaces.com/amazon-found-every-100ms-of-latency-cost-them-1-in-sales/ https://blog.gigaspaces.com/amazon-found-every-100ms-of-late...
chongli 9y ago
Those of us who get frustrated by latency in our tools were left behind long ago. Shiny user interfaces, cloud to-do lists, adblockers, bloated fad frameworks of the week, electron apps, blue apron for dogs... This is our reality now. I miss the internet I grew up with. The one before all the money arrived to ruin absolutely everything.

TheRealPomax 9y ago

New technology starts with the above-well-off, using tech you currency consider "absurdly unattaible to the masses" (like cars in the 20s, or telephone in the 40s, or computers in the 60s, or 24/7 internet in the 90s): for instance, when you just get a basically free gigabit connection straight into the backbone (like in a new upscale Japanese apartment building) the very idea that latency could even be a problem just... disappears. In that context, just attaching an interactive window to a remote running process (as long as it can stream faster than whatever is your minimum acceptable framerate at your minimum acceptable resolution) is literally indistinguishable from running locally. So I frankly do hope that comes to pass (as long as I also get to keep being able to build a desktop computer for working offline).

adrianN 9y ago
Latency and bandwidth are different though. Your GBit connection won't help you access servers on the other side of the Atlantic.
- TheRealPomax 9y ago
  I have no idea why you would need to leave your country in a world where we're back to thin clients and remote processing. Pretty sure the most obvious place for that processing to take place is at what used to be ISPs and have in this hypothetical future become Interactive Service Providers rather than "internet" service providers, with low latency, high bandwidth hubs in or near your city (and more likely, multiple hubs per city).

woogley 9y ago

The catalyst of such a shift could be a very good thing, e.g. exceptional internet speeds everywhere

baybal2 9y ago

Now I expect that there will come usability experts from google/facebook/amazon and tell you that an average user does not event know what latency is. Native apps have won over web app ecosystem, plainly and simple. WASM will not change things even a bit to root causes of people deciding to use native apps over web apps.

greiskul 9y ago
Google and amazon certainly think the average user cares about latency, even if they don't know what it is: https://blog.gigaspaces.com/amazon-found-every-100ms-of-latency-cost-them-1-in-sales/ https://blog.gigaspaces.com/amazon-found-every-100ms-of-late...

chongli 9y ago

Those of us who get frustrated by latency in our tools were left behind long ago. Shiny user interfaces, cloud to-do lists, adblockers, bloated fad frameworks of the week, electron apps, blue apron for dogs... This is our reality now. I miss the internet I grew up with. The one before all the money arrived to ruin absolutely everything.