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A comment at the end of the article: >Lost productivity to malware = 0hrs. Lost productivity to windows auto updates = 28 hrs. Sitting here right now losing ti
by foobar1962 9y ago
A comment at the end of the article:
>Lost productivity to malware = 0hrs. Lost productivity to windows auto updates = 28 hrs. Sitting here right now losing time and money to an unauthorized update. I know how to avoid malware on my work laptop.
That's a bit like how some people (who weren't THERE) think the Y2K-thing was a non-event: they didn't see all the work that got done fixing things before the big day.
- jmkni 9y ago> This malware is tracking everything I type, but at least it's not slowing me down
- pooper 9y agoSorry, friend but you are wrong on this. A simple change would fix the problem which is don't restart the computer! You can update anything and do anything when the computer is plugged in but please don't restart the computer or at least let users decide when they want to restart their computers. Even fedora does a better job with software updates. There is a checkbox when you turn off or restart the computer. If you check it, fedora will install updates and shut down/reboot. Why is this so difficult? Security without usability is worthless.
- moreless 9y agoWhat do you mean "even Fedora"? Linux had updates figured out decades ago. They are applied in the background (so you can keep working), usually don't need restart, and if reboot is needed, it's just that - a fast reboot without applying any updates and similar. Because they were already applied, you just boot to a new copy of kernel + modules. Windows always sucked at this, it just took a turn for worse in Windows 7 and 10. If I tried to come up with a more annoying updates system I really couldn't. It's incredible how difficult it is for them to pull their act together on this one.
- pooper 9y agoSorry, i didnt mean it as an insult. I use fedora every day but i imagine they have fewer resources than Microsoft does. I am not sure about windows 7 and 10. We are arguably better off today than in the ActiveX days. It made no sense to require using windows internet exploder to download windows update.
- rainbowmverse 9y agoIf an update is ready, Windows (at least as of 10) offers an option to update and shut down when you open the power options menu. The random reboots and periods where the computer is unusable (while it gets updates ready) are still annoying.
- youdontknowtho 9y agoI don't even know what to say to the guy you are replying to. Holy...just wow. Can you imagine trying to fix something when some of your users are just unwilling to let you try anything to fix it?
- Anderkent 9y agoYou say sorry and you try to make the upgrade process less disruptive.
- youdontknowtho 9y agoThey've been doing that over the last couple of OS versions. XP to 7 to 10. Granted it's still not great, but it's improved vastly. It has a long way to go. I just think that it's really hard to please end users these days for a variety of reasons that don't all relate to software quality.
- plorkyeran 9y agoWindows 10 updates are far more disruptive than XP's ever were.
- youdontknowtho 9y agoThat's just not the case. I've been a system administrator for a very long time and I can promise you that updates on XP were much worse. Much, much, worse. XP was better than 2K, but wow is 10 better. It's a different world altogether.
- Anderkent 9y agoThey've had a problem of upgrades being painful/slow/difficult, and so people not doing the upgrades. They've fixed the second part by taking away the choice; the first is barely changed.
- JoshTriplett 9y ago> Can you imagine trying to fix something when some of your users are just unwilling to let you try anything to fix it? That's what happens when you 1) don't understand the problem you're solving, and push things that aren't appropriate updates through an update mechanism, and 2) lose user trust.
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