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Except most hospitals charge _after_ they've administered life saving medicine. (Which is why illegal immigrants and the uninsured have burdened the medical sys
by katastic 9y ago
Except most hospitals charge _after_ they've administered life saving medicine. (Which is why illegal immigrants and the uninsured have burdened the medical system. This isn't a 'clever jab'--like yours--the way the legal and medical system is setup, hospitals are the ones that are screwed the most and have to fit the bill for non-payers.)
https://www.quora.com/What-do-doctors-do-when-a-patient-cant-pay-for-life-saving-surgery-A-person-is-in-need-of-immediate-surgery-which-costs-250-000-He-she-only-has-150-000-Will-the-surgeon-let-the-patient-die-or-perform-the-surgery-at-his-her-own-expense https://www.quora.com/What-do-doctors-do-when-a-patient-cant...
>When a patient comes into the hospital and there is a limb threatening emergency, there is no consideration to the patients financial status to provide emergency surgical management, PERIOD.
https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/who-bears-the-cost-of-the-uninsured-nonprofit-hospitals https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/who-bears-t...
>That means hospitals are effectively serving as “insurers of last resort” within the American healthcare sector by providing care to uninsured patients who cannot afford to pay their medical bills. “People are still going to the emergency room,” Garthwaite says, “and they are still receiving treatment—so the cost is still there. When governments do not provide health insurance, hospitals must effectively provide it instead.”
And before some brilliant downvoter comes along, I'd call attention to the fact I've provided sources for all of my claims. Doctors in the USA don't go through 8+ years of school and residence to simply let people die in front of them.
[edit] Per the child poster's date, I've got one more source:
>According to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, 55% of U.S. emergency care now goes uncompensated.[13]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act#Effects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_an...
That reaffirms my point. And my God, 55% is a staggering amount and it highlights many sides of the issue. That many people know and use "free" emergency care when they have to, without paying insurance. And that hospitals are the ones stuck with the burden of our medical system.
- mikeash 9y agoThis has been a legal requirement since 1986. It’s one of the odd things about the debate over socialized medicine: the US has had socialized medicine for 30 years now. The debate is merely over how it’s provided and who pays for it. But it’s never actually mentioned that this is the case.
- katastic 9y agoThanks for the date, that's helpful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_an... >It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to anyone seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay.
- mikeash 9y agoYep, that’s the law in question. Republicans profess to be against socialized medicine, yet very few of them propose repealing EMTALA. It’s suspicious.
- FireBeyond 9y agoAll they need to do is make Medicare sufficiently unattractive that more and more hospitals opt out of accepting Medicare patients and they're no longer covered by EMTALA. Same end result, without the negative publicity.
- katastic 9y agoAnd they also say Veteran's Affairs healthcare is great... which is socialized.