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And it gets worse: Apple discontinued all of their iPods except the one that looks like an iPhone because they want everyone to buy their expensive watch instea

And it gets worse: Apple discontinued all of their iPods except the one that looks like an iPhone because they want everyone to buy their expensive watch instead. And phones still seem to get bigger every year. We're approaching a point where options here don't even exist. (There are other options, not as pretty and small but fairly good. But Apple tends to set the trend so we're basically doomed :b). I'm hoping we'll see more products like the Mighty, or maybe some Android Wear devices that aren't wristwatches (I already have a wristwatch, thank you). But seems like a faint hope. I lost my iPod Shuffle through a boardwalk last month, decided I didn't feel like crawling through a puddle full of discarded needles in 5°C to get it back, and almost regretted the decision when I discovered they are selling used on Amazon for about $170.

Moto7451 9y ago
I think it’s more likely that the iPod Touch remains because it’s a great device to let kids abuse in place of your expensive phone. The market for dedicated audio players can’t be what it once was and audiophiles have other options. The Sansa line at one point had (or still has) the same audio chip as the iPod (Classic), is cheaper, and is super well reviewed. I think people interested in dedicated players have moved onto that. As for your theory, the iPod Touch doesn’t work with the Apple Watch. No GPS/Cellular/etc makes it mostly useless as a parent device for the non-LTE watches and the LTE watch has better connectivity. https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/177304/can-you-use-the-apple-watch-with-an-ipod-touch https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/177304/can-you-use...
- click170 9y ago
  > The Sansa line at one point had (or still has) the same audio chip as the iPod (Classic), is cheaper, and is super well reviewed. I think people interested in dedicated players have moved onto that. This looks promising on the face of it but is missing a key killer-feature IMO. The reason I still use an iPod for my MP3s is for a specific feature in iTunes that I've not yet found elsewhere, I forget the name they use but I call them dynamic playlists. Most of my playlists generate themselves based on DateAdded, LastPlayed, LastSkipped, Rating, Tags and other attributes. When I add a song I give it some tags and sync my iPod, and then it will over time and after a few syncs, end up in other playlists based on how often I play it and what rating I give it. It's a feature that I very much enjoy, and feels like a significant step up from manually managing playlists. I wish I had the same for my Movie library. I've seriously been considering building my own gizmo with a Raspberry pi, an LCD screen and some scripts but that's rather unappealing aesthetically. Has anyone got an equivalent to dynamic libraries + mp3 players working without iTunes? The crux seems to be that the mp3 player needs to keep a log of what's played and when and needs to support ratings, even if the player itself doesn't update the playlists until it's synced. I'm not even huge on sound quality or big on Apple products, it's just the features I like I can't find elsewhere.
  - stryk 9y ago
    MediaMonkey has a similar function for audio playlists. I have no idea how well this translates to mobile (or even if you CAN transfer it to mobile) -- but I know it works on PC for my MP3 library (which is stupidly huge)
jonknee 9y ago
> Apple discontinued all of their iPods except the one that looks like an iPhone because they want everyone to buy their expensive watch instead. Or perhaps because no one was buying the iPods?

Moto7451 9y ago

I think it’s more likely that the iPod Touch remains because it’s a great device to let kids abuse in place of your expensive phone. The market for dedicated audio players can’t be what it once was and audiophiles have other options. The Sansa line at one point had (or still has) the same audio chip as the iPod (Classic), is cheaper, and is super well reviewed. I think people interested in dedicated players have moved onto that. As for your theory, the iPod Touch doesn’t work with the Apple Watch. No GPS/Cellular/etc makes it mostly useless as a parent device for the non-LTE watches and the LTE watch has better connectivity. https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/177304/can-you-use-the-apple-watch-with-an-ipod-touch https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/177304/can-you-use...

click170 9y ago
> The Sansa line at one point had (or still has) the same audio chip as the iPod (Classic), is cheaper, and is super well reviewed. I think people interested in dedicated players have moved onto that. This looks promising on the face of it but is missing a key killer-feature IMO. The reason I still use an iPod for my MP3s is for a specific feature in iTunes that I've not yet found elsewhere, I forget the name they use but I call them dynamic playlists. Most of my playlists generate themselves based on DateAdded, LastPlayed, LastSkipped, Rating, Tags and other attributes. When I add a song I give it some tags and sync my iPod, and then it will over time and after a few syncs, end up in other playlists based on how often I play it and what rating I give it. It's a feature that I very much enjoy, and feels like a significant step up from manually managing playlists. I wish I had the same for my Movie library. I've seriously been considering building my own gizmo with a Raspberry pi, an LCD screen and some scripts but that's rather unappealing aesthetically. Has anyone got an equivalent to dynamic libraries + mp3 players working without iTunes? The crux seems to be that the mp3 player needs to keep a log of what's played and when and needs to support ratings, even if the player itself doesn't update the playlists until it's synced. I'm not even huge on sound quality or big on Apple products, it's just the features I like I can't find elsewhere.
- stryk 9y ago
  MediaMonkey has a similar function for audio playlists. I have no idea how well this translates to mobile (or even if you CAN transfer it to mobile) -- but I know it works on PC for my MP3 library (which is stupidly huge)

jonknee 9y ago

> Apple discontinued all of their iPods except the one that looks like an iPhone because they want everyone to buy their expensive watch instead. Or perhaps because no one was buying the iPods?