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My god, how do you leave over 11k crimes just sitting in a store room... in one county. I'm glad they're addressing this gross miscarriage of justice. Hope it's

My god, how do you leave over 11k crimes just sitting in a store room... in one county. I'm glad they're addressing this gross miscarriage of justice. Hope it's an isolated thing (but not actually expecting it to be so)

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dsfyu404ed 9y ago
An organization that forgets about 11,000 pieces of evidence that could become easy statistics boosters probably has equally sloppy procedures for handling and processing that evidence. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epic-drug-lab-scandal-results-more-20-000-convictions-dropped-n747891 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epic-drug-lab-scandal-r...
MadAnthonyWayne 9y ago
The one county is home to one very big issue, Detroit, in case you weren't paying attention to the early 2000s the city of Detroit was in an utter state of failure with respect to every aspect associated with a modern urban center. Detroit's crime lab was so inept the state shut it down in 2008
dragonwriter 9y ago
> My god, how do you leave over 11k crimes just sitting in a store room... Because if the police had a choice, they wouldn't have collected the evidence in the first place, so when the law required them to collect the evidence and didn't require them to do anything with it, the results were predictable; that's why the newer law sets timelines for testing. > Hope it's an isolated thing (but not actually expecting it to be so) It's not, there's lots of stories about untested rape kits nationally, most of which don't have the “we finally tested them and convicted some rapists” silver lining.
dguaraglia 9y ago
Notice the uproar whenever people encounter the term "rape culture", yet when pieces like this come out, nobody puts two and two together: oh shit, maybe when people complain about rape culture, what they mean is that we don't take sexual assault half as seriously as we should.
- SomewearOver 9y ago
  I've noticed the same area with the vast majority of murders is also the same area as the vast majority of rapes, you are correct that it is a particular culture problem
  - dguaraglia 9y ago
    That's some nice bigotry you are trying to stir up there, buddy. Go back under the alt-right bridge you live in.
    - dang 9y ago
      We've banned that other account (and several related accounts) for trolling. But your comment badly breaks the site guidelines too. Please read them and you'll see that they ask you not to feed trolls, but instead to flag egregious comments. Also, would you please stop using HN for ideological battle? You've done this many times and it's against both the guidelines and the spirit of this site. And we've had to ask you this more than once already. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - dguaraglia 9y ago
        I’ll be happy to remove this comment as it was just a red flag for other people to ignore an account that had been create ~30 minutes prior to posting that one comment. That said, while I do defend my ideas, I’ve tried to keep my comments as civil as possible and about methodology/lack of scientific rigor, rather than purely ideological. I see many people make completely unfounded claims without providing a single shred of scientific proof or critical process used to arrive to their conclusion. Will they be warned too?
fgjjgutjvnu 9y ago
Not every unused rape kit implies that the case wasn't solved. You can solve rape cases without rape kits.

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dsfyu404ed 9y ago

An organization that forgets about 11,000 pieces of evidence that could become easy statistics boosters probably has equally sloppy procedures for handling and processing that evidence. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epic-drug-lab-scandal-results-more-20-000-convictions-dropped-n747891 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epic-drug-lab-scandal-r...

MadAnthonyWayne 9y ago

The one county is home to one very big issue, Detroit, in case you weren't paying attention to the early 2000s the city of Detroit was in an utter state of failure with respect to every aspect associated with a modern urban center. Detroit's crime lab was so inept the state shut it down in 2008

dragonwriter 9y ago

> My god, how do you leave over 11k crimes just sitting in a store room... Because if the police had a choice, they wouldn't have collected the evidence in the first place, so when the law required them to collect the evidence and didn't require them to do anything with it, the results were predictable; that's why the newer law sets timelines for testing. > Hope it's an isolated thing (but not actually expecting it to be so) It's not, there's lots of stories about untested rape kits nationally, most of which don't have the “we finally tested them and convicted some rapists” silver lining.

dguaraglia 9y ago

Notice the uproar whenever people encounter the term "rape culture", yet when pieces like this come out, nobody puts two and two together: oh shit, maybe when people complain about rape culture, what they mean is that we don't take sexual assault half as seriously as we should.

SomewearOver 9y ago
I've noticed the same area with the vast majority of murders is also the same area as the vast majority of rapes, you are correct that it is a particular culture problem
- dguaraglia 9y ago
  That's some nice bigotry you are trying to stir up there, buddy. Go back under the alt-right bridge you live in.
  - dang 9y ago
    We've banned that other account (and several related accounts) for trolling. But your comment badly breaks the site guidelines too. Please read them and you'll see that they ask you not to feed trolls, but instead to flag egregious comments. Also, would you please stop using HN for ideological battle? You've done this many times and it's against both the guidelines and the spirit of this site. And we've had to ask you this more than once already. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - dguaraglia 9y ago
      I’ll be happy to remove this comment as it was just a red flag for other people to ignore an account that had been create ~30 minutes prior to posting that one comment. That said, while I do defend my ideas, I’ve tried to keep my comments as civil as possible and about methodology/lack of scientific rigor, rather than purely ideological. I see many people make completely unfounded claims without providing a single shred of scientific proof or critical process used to arrive to their conclusion. Will they be warned too?

fgjjgutjvnu 9y ago

Not every unused rape kit implies that the case wasn't solved. You can solve rape cases without rape kits.