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1 & 2) http://crgwbr.com/blog/ http://crgwbr.com/blog/ 3) http://www.linkedin.com/in/crgwbr http://www.linkedin.com/in/crgwbr Thanks! I'll try going around HR

by crgwbr 16y ago

1 & 2) http://crgwbr.com/blog/ http://crgwbr.com/blog/ 3) http://www.linkedin.com/in/crgwbr http://www.linkedin.com/in/crgwbr Thanks! I'll try going around HR to get to the top. As far as unpaid interning, its not really possible since there is absolutely no work where I live (middle of no-where, western PA). I'm not opposed to relocating, but relocating for unpaid work is tough.

jsharpe 16y ago
Most internships in Software Engineering are paid these days anyway (I wouldn't ever accept an unpaid one). It's probably a good area in which to look.
fleitz 16y ago
If there is no work, then why are you worried about getting a job? It's impossible. You might as well give up now. Just put yourself up on elance / rent-a-coder, use that to build a portfolio.
- dotBen 16y ago
  I wouldn't do elance or rent-a-coder for a few reasons: Firstly, you might not be creating stuff that you will want to put on your resume/portfolio (my experience from that world is clients who want hacks and weird specs). You will also find that going rates are pretty low because you are competing with off-shore labour (this is not a rant against off-shore, just an observation that this is how common markets work)
  - mattm 16y ago
    I have done freelance work through oDesk and the longer projects were quite valuable. Rates are low but not that low. According to oDesk's stats, the average rate for a web developer is about $16/hr.
    - dotBen 16y ago
      $16/hr for a developer is super low. I guess you can't compare remote to local SF, but $100-$125/hr is a good rate for devs here.
  - RACNicole 16y ago
    Hi dotBen, this is Nicole Miller from vWorker.com (formerly known as Rentacoder.com). vWorker's employers actually select the lowest bidder only 19% of the time (see http://bit.ly/av0S4R http://bit.ly/av0S4R for details) so crgwbr will have a very good opportunity for earning a decent income with available Python jobs.
paradox95 16y ago
It is just as hard anywhere you go. I moved to Silicon Valley 3 years ago with no college degree (I was still in school) and it took me 1 and 1/2 years to find a job. Obviously being here helps but it is just as hard anywhere you go. Going to college is going to be your best option. Moving to a major city won't hurt either.

by crgwbr 16y ago

jsharpe 16y ago

Most internships in Software Engineering are paid these days anyway (I wouldn't ever accept an unpaid one). It's probably a good area in which to look.

fleitz 16y ago

If there is no work, then why are you worried about getting a job? It's impossible. You might as well give up now. Just put yourself up on elance / rent-a-coder, use that to build a portfolio.

dotBen 16y ago
I wouldn't do elance or rent-a-coder for a few reasons: Firstly, you might not be creating stuff that you will want to put on your resume/portfolio (my experience from that world is clients who want hacks and weird specs). You will also find that going rates are pretty low because you are competing with off-shore labour (this is not a rant against off-shore, just an observation that this is how common markets work)
- mattm 16y ago
  I have done freelance work through oDesk and the longer projects were quite valuable. Rates are low but not that low. According to oDesk's stats, the average rate for a web developer is about $16/hr.
  - dotBen 16y ago
    $16/hr for a developer is super low. I guess you can't compare remote to local SF, but $100-$125/hr is a good rate for devs here.
- RACNicole 16y ago
  Hi dotBen, this is Nicole Miller from vWorker.com (formerly known as Rentacoder.com). vWorker's employers actually select the lowest bidder only 19% of the time (see http://bit.ly/av0S4R http://bit.ly/av0S4R for details) so crgwbr will have a very good opportunity for earning a decent income with available Python jobs.

paradox95 16y ago

It is just as hard anywhere you go. I moved to Silicon Valley 3 years ago with no college degree (I was still in school) and it took me 1 and 1/2 years to find a job. Obviously being here helps but it is just as hard anywhere you go. Going to college is going to be your best option. Moving to a major city won't hurt either.