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Sort of off-topic, but magit isn't really GUI :-) -- though it is very nice, if you're an emacs user. It's Achilles' heel is speed, though -- too damn slow. (L

by dilap 9y ago

Sort of off-topic, but magit isn't really GUI :-) -- though it is very nice, if you're an emacs user. It's Achilles' heel is speed, though -- too damn slow. (Last time I tried it, anyway, which was a while ago.)

aldanor 9y ago
Well. That depends :) I don't develop in Emacs and use it solely for hosting Magit, in a separate window. So it's kind of a GUI I guess; more so than a CLI anyway. > It's Achilles' heel is speed, though -- too damn slow. (Last time I tried it, anyway, which was a while ago.) Don't remember a single of case of it feeling too slow in the last few years, whether on linux/mac... (maybe it just got better over time though)
- dilap 9y ago
  interesting. i'm on mac; i'll have to give it another try. also we might just have different ideas of "too slow"; for common operations, anything more than instant is basically too slow. :-)
  - tarsius 9y ago
    On macOS it helps to use Emacs 26.1 (unreleased but very solid) or to use a build with a backport of the vfork patch. For more information see https://magit.vc/manual/magit/MacOS-Performance.html https://magit.vc/manual/magit/MacOS-Performance.html. I also plan to make Magit faster across all platforms.
    - dilap 9y ago
      very cool to hear that performance is a focus area!
JetSetWilly 9y ago
It seems to be incredibly slow on windows, but fine on linux. It seems like the sort of ui that needs to be near-instant in order to be usable, the premise being you can tap the various shortcuts to assemble a command very rapidly. But on windows this is an exercise in frustration because each command takes at least a second or two at best to execute and often much longer.
tarsius 9y ago
I think Magit could be classified as a TUI [1]. But that still doesn't help explain its benefits to someone who hasn't tried it. For the crowdfunding campaign that I ran earlier this year I wrote a few articles. For those unfamiliar with Magit I would recommend [2] and the more visual [3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text-based_user_interface https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text-based_user_interface [2] https://emacsair.me/2017/09/01/the-magical-git-interface/#start https://emacsair.me/2017/09/01/the-magical-git-interface/#st... [3] https://emacsair.me/2017/09/01/magit-walk-through/#start https://emacsair.me/2017/09/01/magit-walk-through/#start
thomastjeffery 9y ago
It's a Graphical User Interface. I think that the distinction that makes a Commnad Line Interface is the REPL. I consider anything with a non-linear UI that you can see a GUI.

by dilap 9y ago

aldanor 9y ago

Well. That depends :) I don't develop in Emacs and use it solely for hosting Magit, in a separate window. So it's kind of a GUI I guess; more so than a CLI anyway. > It's Achilles' heel is speed, though -- too damn slow. (Last time I tried it, anyway, which was a while ago.) Don't remember a single of case of it feeling too slow in the last few years, whether on linux/mac... (maybe it just got better over time though)

dilap 9y ago
interesting. i'm on mac; i'll have to give it another try. also we might just have different ideas of "too slow"; for common operations, anything more than instant is basically too slow. :-)
- tarsius 9y ago
  On macOS it helps to use Emacs 26.1 (unreleased but very solid) or to use a build with a backport of the vfork patch. For more information see https://magit.vc/manual/magit/MacOS-Performance.html https://magit.vc/manual/magit/MacOS-Performance.html. I also plan to make Magit faster across all platforms.
  - dilap 9y ago
    very cool to hear that performance is a focus area!

JetSetWilly 9y ago

It seems to be incredibly slow on windows, but fine on linux. It seems like the sort of ui that needs to be near-instant in order to be usable, the premise being you can tap the various shortcuts to assemble a command very rapidly. But on windows this is an exercise in frustration because each command takes at least a second or two at best to execute and often much longer.

tarsius 9y ago

I think Magit could be classified as a TUI [1]. But that still doesn't help explain its benefits to someone who hasn't tried it. For the crowdfunding campaign that I ran earlier this year I wrote a few articles. For those unfamiliar with Magit I would recommend [2] and the more visual [3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text-based_user_interface https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text-based_user_interface [2] https://emacsair.me/2017/09/01/the-magical-git-interface/#start https://emacsair.me/2017/09/01/the-magical-git-interface/#st... [3] https://emacsair.me/2017/09/01/magit-walk-through/#start https://emacsair.me/2017/09/01/magit-walk-through/#start

thomastjeffery 9y ago

It's a Graphical User Interface. I think that the distinction that makes a Commnad Line Interface is the REPL. I consider anything with a non-linear UI that you can see a GUI.