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Bitcoin is just a dressed up pyramid scheme to enrich ones at the top. The lack of oversight and regulation is pretty much a welcome sign for every scammer in t

Bitcoin is just a dressed up pyramid scheme to enrich ones at the top. The lack of oversight and regulation is pretty much a welcome sign for every scammer in the world.

SippinLean 9y ago
We don't need to make this general comment on every specific Bitcoin thread. A pyramid scheme requires a central actor to run the scheme, Bitcoin has none. This article is specifically about the author's opinion of what "price" and "market cap" mean in the context of Bitcoin.
- mikeschmatz 9y ago
  > A pyramid scheme requires a central actor to run the scheme, Bitcoin has none. No, once put in motion, a pyramid scheme doesn't require a central actor. > We don't need to make this general comment on every specific Bitcoin thread. OK, I'll check with you next time before commenting here.
  - SippinLean 9y ago
    Yes they do, they require operators and recruiters, which have a specific meaning and do not exist in Bitcoin in any sense other than an abstract one. Your comment would not be out of place on a post titled "Is Bitcoin a pyramid scheme?" but it is a generic re-hashed comment that has little to do with the specific content here.
- davidgerard 9y ago
  It can reasonably be called a headless ponzi, I think. https://prestonbyrne.com/2017/12/08/bitcoin_ponzi/ https://prestonbyrne.com/2017/12/08/bitcoin_ponzi/
  - SippinLean 9y ago
    A Ponzi scheme's definition relies even more on a central actor, meaning Bitcoin by definition, is not one. The author of the article you linked to makes this clear, and goes on to make false claims. >it promises insane investment returns Nothing in the Bitcoin spec promises insane investment returns, internet comments saying "buy bitcoin!" are not part of the Bitcoin spec. This is vastly different than a Ponzi and hard to link to Bitcoin itself, even abstractly. Again, the author relies on many false truths and abstract concepts: >turning every victim of the scheme into a new principal as they talk up their books for the purpose of recruiting new investors to subsidize their exits If 1 person has bought Bitcoin or suggested another buy it for any reason other than driving up the price, this is instantly false. In pyramid and Ponzi schemes, the scheme is not abstract, it is run by actual people. The endlessly rehashed argument that Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme relies on these actors being represented by abstract notions, like comments on a message board.

Bitcoin is just a dressed up pyramid scheme to enrich ones at the top. The lack of oversight and regulation is pretty much a welcome sign for every scammer in the world.

SippinLean 9y ago

We don't need to make this general comment on every specific Bitcoin thread. A pyramid scheme requires a central actor to run the scheme, Bitcoin has none. This article is specifically about the author's opinion of what "price" and "market cap" mean in the context of Bitcoin.

mikeschmatz 9y ago
> A pyramid scheme requires a central actor to run the scheme, Bitcoin has none. No, once put in motion, a pyramid scheme doesn't require a central actor. > We don't need to make this general comment on every specific Bitcoin thread. OK, I'll check with you next time before commenting here.
- SippinLean 9y ago
  Yes they do, they require operators and recruiters, which have a specific meaning and do not exist in Bitcoin in any sense other than an abstract one. Your comment would not be out of place on a post titled "Is Bitcoin a pyramid scheme?" but it is a generic re-hashed comment that has little to do with the specific content here.
davidgerard 9y ago
It can reasonably be called a headless ponzi, I think. https://prestonbyrne.com/2017/12/08/bitcoin_ponzi/ https://prestonbyrne.com/2017/12/08/bitcoin_ponzi/
- SippinLean 9y ago
  A Ponzi scheme's definition relies even more on a central actor, meaning Bitcoin by definition, is not one. The author of the article you linked to makes this clear, and goes on to make false claims. >it promises insane investment returns Nothing in the Bitcoin spec promises insane investment returns, internet comments saying "buy bitcoin!" are not part of the Bitcoin spec. This is vastly different than a Ponzi and hard to link to Bitcoin itself, even abstractly. Again, the author relies on many false truths and abstract concepts: >turning every victim of the scheme into a new principal as they talk up their books for the purpose of recruiting new investors to subsidize their exits If 1 person has bought Bitcoin or suggested another buy it for any reason other than driving up the price, this is instantly false. In pyramid and Ponzi schemes, the scheme is not abstract, it is run by actual people. The endlessly rehashed argument that Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme relies on these actors being represented by abstract notions, like comments on a message board.