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I've never hunted in Germany, and New Zealand has very different hunting, but from all the Europeans that I've talked to, deer hunting is a managed system. It'

I've never hunted in Germany, and New Zealand has very different hunting, but from all the Europeans that I've talked to, deer hunting is a managed system. It's not as simple as "keep the woods overpopulated". For starters, you tend to want to keep a good bloodline going. So hunters will cull off the deer of weaker bloodlines. You also don't want excessive competition, because you don't want malnourished deer. So there is incentive to keep the numbers at a manageable level. Lastly, there is actually a legal minimum number of deer that hunters need to shoot a year. They are required to harvest a certain number of animals.

swerner 9y ago
> Lastly, there is actually a legal minimum number of deer that hunters need to shoot a year. (excuse the German links please, I don't have any references in English for the following) Not only a minimum number, but an exact number: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abschussplan https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abschussplan In some jurisdictions, hunters are required by law to keep trophies as proof. Going over or under is a misdemeanour, and can result in severe fines in some cases: http://www.jagdrecht-bayern.de/jagd-4/abschussregelung/abschussplan/verstoss/ http://www.jagdrecht-bayern.de/jagd-4/abschussregelung/absch... http://www.jawina.de/abschussplan-nicht-erfuellt-19-000-euro-strafe/ http://www.jawina.de/abschussplan-nicht-erfuellt-19-000-euro...
wirrbel 9y ago
There are several associations for hunters in Germany, and one, the ecological hunters association is questioning how deer is managed. Don't know how the google translate translation holds up for https://www.moz.de/artikel-ansicht/dg/0/1/1459507 https://www.moz.de/artikel-ansicht/dg/0/1/1459507 but maybe it is an interesting read. It really seems to me that a predator is a missing piece in the eco system at the moment. Hunting and quotas is a bit like introducing a quick hack you need to maintain over the years, that requires introducing more hacks over time to keep the system alive.

swerner 9y ago

> Lastly, there is actually a legal minimum number of deer that hunters need to shoot a year. (excuse the German links please, I don't have any references in English for the following) Not only a minimum number, but an exact number: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abschussplan https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abschussplan In some jurisdictions, hunters are required by law to keep trophies as proof. Going over or under is a misdemeanour, and can result in severe fines in some cases: http://www.jagdrecht-bayern.de/jagd-4/abschussregelung/abschussplan/verstoss/ http://www.jagdrecht-bayern.de/jagd-4/abschussregelung/absch... http://www.jawina.de/abschussplan-nicht-erfuellt-19-000-euro-strafe/ http://www.jawina.de/abschussplan-nicht-erfuellt-19-000-euro...

wirrbel 9y ago

There are several associations for hunters in Germany, and one, the ecological hunters association is questioning how deer is managed. Don't know how the google translate translation holds up for https://www.moz.de/artikel-ansicht/dg/0/1/1459507 https://www.moz.de/artikel-ansicht/dg/0/1/1459507 but maybe it is an interesting read. It really seems to me that a predator is a missing piece in the eco system at the moment. Hunting and quotas is a bit like introducing a quick hack you need to maintain over the years, that requires introducing more hacks over time to keep the system alive.