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If the title is protected, it's not possible to be an engineer without having the degree. Anyway, the author was posting google requirements. More than 80% of

If the title is protected, it's not possible to be an engineer without having the degree. Anyway, the author was posting google requirements. More than 80% of google developers have a master or more.

aoeusnth1 9y ago
Uh, that's not true at all - most Googlers don't have a masters. Do you have a source?
- user5994461 9y ago
  I can't find the source again. Instead, here some numbers showing that 76% of ALL Google employees have a degree. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/28/this-tech-company-has-the-most-highly-educated-employees.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/28/this-tech-company-has-the-mo... The saying that one doesn't need a degree to get a tech job is nonsense. Do the test: Ask one guy working in one of the major tech company how many of his direct neighbors have a degree, most likely it's all of them.
  - majewsky 9y ago
    > 76% of ALL Google employees have a degree. > The saying that one doesn't need a degree to get a tech job is nonsense. These statements directly contradict. 24% of ALL Google employees don't have a degree. > Ask one guy working in one of the major tech company how many of his direct neighbors have a degree I know that I was hired into my current role without having a CS degree at the time [1}, based solely on my open-source portfolio. [1] I now have a BSc in CS because I work part-time and attended university in parallel.
    - user5994461 9y ago
      The statements don't contradict. Read the source, the other 24% are marked as "unknown" status, not as not having a degree. Furthermore, that's the statistics for the whole company. It's higher for tech jobs. It's higher for younger folks. It's higher in countries where degrees are affordable.
Waterluvian 9y ago
My point is that it's possible to effectively be one without. It's not like people without the degree can't do all the things an engineer does. It just becomes troublesome when there's safety certifications and such required. There's definitely value, meaning, and importance in the engineering degree and certifications.

If the title is protected, it's not possible to be an engineer without having the degree. Anyway, the author was posting google requirements. More than 80% of google developers have a master or more.

aoeusnth1 9y ago

Uh, that's not true at all - most Googlers don't have a masters. Do you have a source?

user5994461 9y ago
I can't find the source again. Instead, here some numbers showing that 76% of ALL Google employees have a degree. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/28/this-tech-company-has-the-most-highly-educated-employees.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/28/this-tech-company-has-the-mo... The saying that one doesn't need a degree to get a tech job is nonsense. Do the test: Ask one guy working in one of the major tech company how many of his direct neighbors have a degree, most likely it's all of them.
- majewsky 9y ago
  > 76% of ALL Google employees have a degree. > The saying that one doesn't need a degree to get a tech job is nonsense. These statements directly contradict. 24% of ALL Google employees don't have a degree. > Ask one guy working in one of the major tech company how many of his direct neighbors have a degree I know that I was hired into my current role without having a CS degree at the time [1}, based solely on my open-source portfolio. [1] I now have a BSc in CS because I work part-time and attended university in parallel.
  - user5994461 9y ago
    The statements don't contradict. Read the source, the other 24% are marked as "unknown" status, not as not having a degree. Furthermore, that's the statistics for the whole company. It's higher for tech jobs. It's higher for younger folks. It's higher in countries where degrees are affordable.

Waterluvian 9y ago

My point is that it's possible to effectively be one without. It's not like people without the degree can't do all the things an engineer does. It just becomes troublesome when there's safety certifications and such required. There's definitely value, meaning, and importance in the engineering degree and certifications.