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This. How can I teach my two kids this sort of independent without getting a citation by children's services? Serious question.

CydeWeys 9y ago
Check out this case from my former neck of the woods: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meitiv_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meitiv_incidents They just did it, were investigated, came out in the clear, and then set precedent that allowed others to do it as well.
- lighttower 9y ago
  So the only way is to get reported to the cops, get my children held against their will, mount a legal challenge and win to set a legal precedent in my state/county. Ouch.
  - coding123 9y ago
    The US is not the same US it was 10 years ago, and wasn't the same ten years before that... Kind of an interesting hypothesis to why we shouldn't call this the land of the free anymore. Parents are now being called legal gaurdians in some circles as a way to show how that state now owns children.
    - sdenton4 9y ago
      Qua?! Legal guardians is just a more general term than parents, which can encompass situations like orphans cared for by grandparents. Had nothing to do with saying that the state 'owns children.'
      - behringer 9y ago
        Legal guardians has always meant something different than biological parents.
    - Godel_unicode 9y ago
      > we shouldn't call this the land of the free anymore. Did you miss the part where they won and CPS released a statement that the cops overreacted? What more American thing is there than repeatedly disobeying wrong instructions from the government? Their kids learned that in America if you didn't do anything wrong you can challenge The System and win. Seems like a lesson worth teaching to me!
    - fjsolwmv 9y ago
      Please delete this blantantly false comment.
  - CydeWeys 9y ago
    Fortunately other people have started to set that legal precedent, so hopefully you won't have to. That case in Maryland was national news, and precedent isn't necessarily limited by jurisdiction.

CydeWeys 9y ago

Check out this case from my former neck of the woods: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meitiv_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meitiv_incidents They just did it, were investigated, came out in the clear, and then set precedent that allowed others to do it as well.

lighttower 9y ago
So the only way is to get reported to the cops, get my children held against their will, mount a legal challenge and win to set a legal precedent in my state/county. Ouch.
- coding123 9y ago
  The US is not the same US it was 10 years ago, and wasn't the same ten years before that... Kind of an interesting hypothesis to why we shouldn't call this the land of the free anymore. Parents are now being called legal gaurdians in some circles as a way to show how that state now owns children.
  - sdenton4 9y ago
    Qua?! Legal guardians is just a more general term than parents, which can encompass situations like orphans cared for by grandparents. Had nothing to do with saying that the state 'owns children.'
    - behringer 9y ago
      Legal guardians has always meant something different than biological parents.
  - Godel_unicode 9y ago
    > we shouldn't call this the land of the free anymore. Did you miss the part where they won and CPS released a statement that the cops overreacted? What more American thing is there than repeatedly disobeying wrong instructions from the government? Their kids learned that in America if you didn't do anything wrong you can challenge The System and win. Seems like a lesson worth teaching to me!
  - fjsolwmv 9y ago
    Please delete this blantantly false comment.
- CydeWeys 9y ago
  Fortunately other people have started to set that legal precedent, so hopefully you won't have to. That case in Maryland was national news, and precedent isn't necessarily limited by jurisdiction.