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You're right, my apologies. I frequently forget that I am not always writing from middle America to San Francisco on this website. I'll try to keep my blinders
by dvanduzer 9y ago
You're right, my apologies. I frequently forget that I am not always writing from middle America to San Francisco on this website. I'll try to keep my blinders in check.
This chapter was almost certainly posted in the context of Sam Altman's recent blog post[0], which itself echoes an essay Paul Graham wrote a decade or so ago.[1] But there's a more immediate connection between Sam Altman's essay and the essay James Damore circulated at Google.
I was very interested in reading Stephen's "contemporary conservative" reaction to Mill, and wanted to place it within the timeline of human culture that I could understand: just a few years after the abolition of slavery and recognition of voting rights for black men in the United States, but a couple of generations before voting rights for women.
So, Altman is writing about unpopular opinions a few months after Damore is fired from Google for circulating a set of opinions, emphasizing that men and women are fundamentally different. A century and a half ago, J.F. Stephen's most substantial disagreement with J.S. Mill's treatise on liberty is... Mill's advocacy to fundamentally alter society to treat men and women equally in the name of justice.
Despite what Professor Stove said in 1987, Mill's opinion was the unpopular one in 1873.
[0] http://blog.samaltman.com/e-pur-si-muove http://blog.samaltman.com/e-pur-si-muove
[1] http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html
- yesenadam 9y agoOh thank you!, I'm glad I complained. :-) "I am not always writing from middle America to San Francisco on this website" hehe - though maybe usually, it's understandable. Yeah, I know that PG essay well - I'm a huge fan of his essays (especially the non-startup/programming ones). Ohh of course - someone else tried to explain for the (U.S.) users why 1869 was so different from 1859 - I must remember tech people mostly live in the 21st C hehe. I seem to have more favourite writers from the 19th C than any other century, and have spent a lot of time living there and getting to know it (e.g. Hazlitt, Emerson, Ruskin, Nietzsche, Wilde, Stevenson, W James, Kierkegaard, Thoreau) I'll have to read Stephen's book again, I read it about 25 years ago. Also, Mill worshipped his wife. I mean really worshipped her. Some of the things he said about her were pretty over-the-top, even for someone madly in love. From memory, didn't they co-write On Liberty? Maybe he got all his 'advanced' ideas from her. His Autobiography is fascinating. Also, speaking of treatment of women, I can't read about 'experiments in living' without recalling the horrific chapter on Shelley in Paul Johnson's Intellectuals.