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Time to close the 'contractor' loophole? lol j/k, the man would never let that happen (alternatively, completely separate out benefits from wages by law, or w

by nol13 9y ago

Time to close the 'contractor' loophole? lol j/k, the man would never let that happen (alternatively, completely separate out benefits from wages by law, or whatever other changes that would make it not always the correct business move to hire as few people as possible)

mjevans 9y ago
Pro-rate everything. Then there's no incentive to cut apart a single real job in to multiple small ones 'to save money'. (Though there may be reason to take a partial job EG during school hours for parents.)
Noos 9y ago
it's not that temp jobs are bad. It's more that they really aren't designed to be someone's sole source of income. The issue is the lack of real jobs created by the internet/tech boom; we need more retail chains and less amazon.
- TheCoelacanth 9y ago
  Jobs aren't designed to do anything except fulfill the employer's needs at minimal cost. We need to stop waiting around for employers to start looking out for their employees' interests and start forcing them to.
  - EliRivers 9y ago
    I wonder how fast you'd get blacklisted if you mumbled something about unionising whilst on one of these jobs. Maybe outside union organisers could start turning up; they'd probably get roughed up by security and ultimately arrested, but the cycle has to go through that phase again before it reaches the next phase.
- nol13 9y ago
  No it's that a lot (most?) of those temp jobs are really just jobs, but with a different label.
closeparen 9y ago
Temp workers are W2 employees of temp staffing agencies. How about let's provision healthcare, retirement, etc. directly to all citizens, instead of getting angry at/banning jobs that don't provide them.
- nol13 9y ago
  Agreed. But ya, in previous life my job duties included making sure none of my fake subordinates ran into any co-employment issues, such as drinking the free office coffee. We were employed by a staffing company, we 'worked' for the company whose office we sat in, and because they had me to say "do what this guy tells you to do" instead of that guy just telling him what to do, we could still qualify as contractors.

by nol13 9y ago

mjevans 9y ago

Pro-rate everything. Then there's no incentive to cut apart a single real job in to multiple small ones 'to save money'. (Though there may be reason to take a partial job EG during school hours for parents.)

Noos 9y ago

it's not that temp jobs are bad. It's more that they really aren't designed to be someone's sole source of income. The issue is the lack of real jobs created by the internet/tech boom; we need more retail chains and less amazon.

TheCoelacanth 9y ago
Jobs aren't designed to do anything except fulfill the employer's needs at minimal cost. We need to stop waiting around for employers to start looking out for their employees' interests and start forcing them to.
- EliRivers 9y ago
  I wonder how fast you'd get blacklisted if you mumbled something about unionising whilst on one of these jobs. Maybe outside union organisers could start turning up; they'd probably get roughed up by security and ultimately arrested, but the cycle has to go through that phase again before it reaches the next phase.
nol13 9y ago
No it's that a lot (most?) of those temp jobs are really just jobs, but with a different label.

closeparen 9y ago

Temp workers are W2 employees of temp staffing agencies. How about let's provision healthcare, retirement, etc. directly to all citizens, instead of getting angry at/banning jobs that don't provide them.

nol13 9y ago
Agreed. But ya, in previous life my job duties included making sure none of my fake subordinates ran into any co-employment issues, such as drinking the free office coffee. We were employed by a staffing company, we 'worked' for the company whose office we sat in, and because they had me to say "do what this guy tells you to do" instead of that guy just telling him what to do, we could still qualify as contractors.