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The thing is you are free to hold and expose extreme views - and I strongly support your right to do so and not to be subject to persecution from the state for
by gjjrfcbugxbhf 9y ago
The thing is you are free to hold and expose extreme views - and I strongly support your right to do so and not to be subject to persecution from the state for doing so. However I also have the right to not associate with you if I think that you are a dick.
- vxNsr 9y agoUgh, so done with this xkcd. Ignoring people who we don't agree with is how we got to a place where supporting your political party was more important than having an ideology you could morally justify. I personally lean fairly far to the right but I spend a lot of time listening to NPR, reading slate, and other pretty lefty publications. When I talk to people who only consume one side of the media, whether it's right or left, I feel like I'm talking to a wall of nonsense. People have so little understanding of those they disagree with and will dismiss them with "they're a bunch of idiots" so quickly that their position has no basis in reality. I'm not saying we should give everyone a platform, I'm saying that if someone says "all the rich should be killed" or "gay men don't know love" each position despite being on diametrically opposite sides of our current political landscape need to be understood if we want to move forward.
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- gjjrfcbugxbhf 9y agoThe OP is talking about extreme views like racism (or in their case hating trans people). You are talking about listening to Democrat opinions. Very very different thing. I am quite happy to be friends with people with different political opinions or who vote for another party. I am also happy to know who is spouting racist, sexist or crazy drivel. This allows me personally to avoid them. Others may choose to engage with the extremists I choose not to waste my time. This is a matter for individual free will. NB once again listening to Democrat/republican media when you are voting for the other party is just normal and has nothing to do with choosing not to associate with e.g Klansman.
- vxNsr 9y agoHow about listening as someone who calls for your family to be terrorized and killed; NPR regularly gives a platform to people like that (so often in fact, that some right-wing friends call it National Palestinian Radio). You think that because of your political affiliation you can't possibly be harboring abhorrent views, come out into the light. No one is asking you to invite klansmen to your dinner parties, just know that your crazy little militia (antifa) is every bit as hateful, fearmongering, and dangerous as the klan ever was. It's in vogue now to compare antifa to the communists in 1930s germany and to pontificate on the whatifs. We know the whatifs though, they happened not 1000 miles to the east and caused just as much death and terror (if not more). Most importantly, consider that those extremists you're afraid to waste your time with are a lot closer to you in both life experience and views than you're willing to admit. (pro tip: if you make fun of Kushner's voice or Trump's hair you got a lot in common with /pol/ when they use slurs like sand-n* or compare Obama to a monkey).
- gjjrfcbugxbhf 9y agoWow just wow.