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My grandmother's sister was married to a man who served as Captain of the 1st rank on a nuclear submarine in the Soviet and maybe even Russian Navy (I don't kno

My grandmother's sister was married to a man who served as Captain of the 1st rank on a nuclear submarine in the Soviet and maybe even Russian Navy (I don't know exactly when he retired). As I found out later in life, he was also one of the liquidators of Chernobyl nuclear disaster, the effects of which ultimately led to his early death in early 2000s. I know for sure he already retired from military by mid 90s when I was about 10 or 11. Right around that time, me and my pops used to visit them in Moscow on just about every summer break and I remember during one of our stays with his family my dad asked him about this particular subject. His response is something I still remember word-for-word which would translate roughly to "We know they exist. There are people (in the government) working on this. I don't know anything more and this is all i can tell you." I'm not trying to make any conclusions here or get ridiculed. Just sharing something that came from a man who must've had a pretty high clearance in Soviet military. Or maybe he was just trolling us lol

kevinskii 9y ago
When I was in submarine sonar school, one of my instructors claimed to have heard sounds under the sea that were not of this world. He said that they made him believe in alien visitation. In the many years and countless thousands of miles of voyages that followed, I never heard a goddamned thing. Oh well.
- ianai 9y ago
  You and he were probably using entirely different generations of sonar.
- inks 9y ago
  I had a Captain while doing my service in Finland he was convinced he had seen a UFO while aboard in Europe during the late 70s, he stood by it even when he was showed the spirit and claimed we must have copied it.
- nyolfen 9y ago
  could it have been sea mammals? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrcbKlW4Tw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrcbKlW4Tw
rdtsc 9y ago
> Captain of the 1st rank on a nuclear submarine in the Soviet and maybe even Russian Navy During the 70's or 80's Soviet subs were detecting these "quacking" sounds in the Antarctic. They were puzzling and many thought that it was the aliens or super secret Western technology. https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=306240733 https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?stor... It turned out to be whales. There were other sounds like the "Bloop" which turned to be ice quakes. > Or maybe he was just trolling us I also had an uncle in the Soviet military and he did like to troll us. When rumors of aliens become popular in the tabloids, he convinced a good number of people from his village that aliens have landed in the woods. It was actually a lightning strike which caught some trees on fire but, but he got them to believe it was a landing zone for an alien spacecraft. On a more serious note, I can't believe any government can keep a tight enough lid on something like that. Someone, somewhere is bound to defect or to leak it is somehow.
- agarden 9y ago
  > On a more serious note, I can't believe any government can keep a tight enough lid on something like that. Someone, somewhere is bound to defect or to leak it is somehow. Except that what you are swatting away with that comment is someone claiming to have heard that leak. One could also look at the NYT article as another leak, no? I would think that if one had something top secret like this that one desperately wanted to keep under wraps despite the inevitable leak, the best strategy might well be to intentionally sow lots of bogus UFO sightings and create a subculture of UFO paranoia, so that when the true leaks eventually happen they are lost in the noise. Which of course does not mean that is necessarily what has actually been happening.
  - rdtsc 9y ago
    > are swatting away with that comment is someone claiming to have heard that leak. Yap. I'll swat a lot of online comments claiming someone heard there are aliens visiting earth from their uncle. I'll also swat away similar claims about contrail or lizard people. What would be the logical reason not to swat them away? You can ask what would take not to swat them away? How about specific details about aliens, new technology example or some breakthrough in physics or other science possible from this alien technology. A clear video or these spaceships not some blurry shape moving on the screen. > One could also look at the NYT article as another leak, no? Is it? It's a leak of the existence of UFO. There is not doubt UFOs exist, I am not sure that's proof of aliens. > I would think that if one had something top secret like this that one desperately wanted to keep under wraps despite the inevitable leak, the best strategy might well be to intentionally sow lots of bogus UFO sightings and create a subculture of UFO paranoia, I would also intentionally sow bogus UFO sightings if I wanted to hide program to test experimental aircraft.

kevinskii 9y ago

When I was in submarine sonar school, one of my instructors claimed to have heard sounds under the sea that were not of this world. He said that they made him believe in alien visitation. In the many years and countless thousands of miles of voyages that followed, I never heard a goddamned thing. Oh well.

ianai 9y ago
You and he were probably using entirely different generations of sonar.
inks 9y ago
I had a Captain while doing my service in Finland he was convinced he had seen a UFO while aboard in Europe during the late 70s, he stood by it even when he was showed the spirit and claimed we must have copied it.
nyolfen 9y ago
could it have been sea mammals? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrcbKlW4Tw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrcbKlW4Tw

rdtsc 9y ago

> Captain of the 1st rank on a nuclear submarine in the Soviet and maybe even Russian Navy During the 70's or 80's Soviet subs were detecting these "quacking" sounds in the Antarctic. They were puzzling and many thought that it was the aliens or super secret Western technology. https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=306240733 https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?stor... It turned out to be whales. There were other sounds like the "Bloop" which turned to be ice quakes. > Or maybe he was just trolling us I also had an uncle in the Soviet military and he did like to troll us. When rumors of aliens become popular in the tabloids, he convinced a good number of people from his village that aliens have landed in the woods. It was actually a lightning strike which caught some trees on fire but, but he got them to believe it was a landing zone for an alien spacecraft. On a more serious note, I can't believe any government can keep a tight enough lid on something like that. Someone, somewhere is bound to defect or to leak it is somehow.

agarden 9y ago
> On a more serious note, I can't believe any government can keep a tight enough lid on something like that. Someone, somewhere is bound to defect or to leak it is somehow. Except that what you are swatting away with that comment is someone claiming to have heard that leak. One could also look at the NYT article as another leak, no? I would think that if one had something top secret like this that one desperately wanted to keep under wraps despite the inevitable leak, the best strategy might well be to intentionally sow lots of bogus UFO sightings and create a subculture of UFO paranoia, so that when the true leaks eventually happen they are lost in the noise. Which of course does not mean that is necessarily what has actually been happening.
- rdtsc 9y ago
  > are swatting away with that comment is someone claiming to have heard that leak. Yap. I'll swat a lot of online comments claiming someone heard there are aliens visiting earth from their uncle. I'll also swat away similar claims about contrail or lizard people. What would be the logical reason not to swat them away? You can ask what would take not to swat them away? How about specific details about aliens, new technology example or some breakthrough in physics or other science possible from this alien technology. A clear video or these spaceships not some blurry shape moving on the screen. > One could also look at the NYT article as another leak, no? Is it? It's a leak of the existence of UFO. There is not doubt UFOs exist, I am not sure that's proof of aliens. > I would think that if one had something top secret like this that one desperately wanted to keep under wraps despite the inevitable leak, the best strategy might well be to intentionally sow lots of bogus UFO sightings and create a subculture of UFO paranoia, I would also intentionally sow bogus UFO sightings if I wanted to hide program to test experimental aircraft.