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I suggest, if you haven't you visit London, many places, not all expensive, are a 5-10 minute walk to a regional train stop that can get you to city center in 4

by s0rce 9y ago

I suggest, if you haven't you visit London, many places, not all expensive, are a 5-10 minute walk to a regional train stop that can get you to city center in 45minutes.

closeparen 9y ago
I will have to check that out! I suspect that these neighborhoods have a level of density that, if proposed in a typical American suburb, would spark cries of "Manhattanization."
- wutbrodo 9y ago
  > I suspect that these neighborhoods have a level of density that, if proposed in a typical American suburb, would spark cries of "Manhattanization." Well yea, density is what enables a transit-centric, and American having an intense phobia of density is part of what makes them so car-centric.
- s0rce 9y ago
  There is a big middle ground between suburban ranch homes on 0.25 acres and "Manhattan", see some nice areas of dense row (aka. townhouses) houses in London suburbs.
drieddust 9y ago
I have travelled in London for 5 years and it is anything but predictable. My commute of 45 minutes would last anywhere between 45 minutes to two hours depending upon the excuses they will cookup. Sometimes my train travel will be converted to a nice picnic on London bus as train will be cancelled abruptly. Their list of excuses is legendary[1]. And then comes these patronising messages "This [Chrismas|Easter|Weekend|Holiday] I am working for you." I saw those messages for 5 years and still saw services going downhill. One funny anecdote probably illustrates their lethargy. Station I used to board from was upgraded and platform extended to allow boarding from 10 carriages. This happened long before I started living their. But announcement always said only 9 carriages will open. I lived their for two years and same message was played everyday. [1] https://www.standard.co.uk/news/a-year-of-excuses-to-rail-against-6353246.html https://www.standard.co.uk/news/a-year-of-excuses-to-rail-ag... [2] https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/check-before-you-travel-over-christmas-and-new-year-as-investment-on-london-to-norwich-line-continues https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/check-before-y...
- drieddust 9y ago
  Wow, downvotes for stating the facts. I couldn't care less for votes but would still like if someone care to explain what is wrong with my statements?
  - closeparen 9y ago
    I didn't downvote you, but something about systematic on-time performance metrics might have been more helpful than your personal dissatisfaction with delays? Blaming transit workers for system performance is also pretty controversial; most would probably attribute that to incompetent management or stingy taxpayers?

by s0rce 9y ago

I suggest, if you haven't you visit London, many places, not all expensive, are a 5-10 minute walk to a regional train stop that can get you to city center in 45minutes.

closeparen 9y ago

I will have to check that out! I suspect that these neighborhoods have a level of density that, if proposed in a typical American suburb, would spark cries of "Manhattanization."

wutbrodo 9y ago
> I suspect that these neighborhoods have a level of density that, if proposed in a typical American suburb, would spark cries of "Manhattanization." Well yea, density is what enables a transit-centric, and American having an intense phobia of density is part of what makes them so car-centric.
s0rce 9y ago
There is a big middle ground between suburban ranch homes on 0.25 acres and "Manhattan", see some nice areas of dense row (aka. townhouses) houses in London suburbs.

drieddust 9y ago

I have travelled in London for 5 years and it is anything but predictable. My commute of 45 minutes would last anywhere between 45 minutes to two hours depending upon the excuses they will cookup. Sometimes my train travel will be converted to a nice picnic on London bus as train will be cancelled abruptly. Their list of excuses is legendary[1]. And then comes these patronising messages "This [Chrismas|Easter|Weekend|Holiday] I am working for you." I saw those messages for 5 years and still saw services going downhill. One funny anecdote probably illustrates their lethargy. Station I used to board from was upgraded and platform extended to allow boarding from 10 carriages. This happened long before I started living their. But announcement always said only 9 carriages will open. I lived their for two years and same message was played everyday. [1] https://www.standard.co.uk/news/a-year-of-excuses-to-rail-against-6353246.html https://www.standard.co.uk/news/a-year-of-excuses-to-rail-ag... [2] https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/check-before-you-travel-over-christmas-and-new-year-as-investment-on-london-to-norwich-line-continues https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/check-before-y...

drieddust 9y ago
Wow, downvotes for stating the facts. I couldn't care less for votes but would still like if someone care to explain what is wrong with my statements?
- closeparen 9y ago
  I didn't downvote you, but something about systematic on-time performance metrics might have been more helpful than your personal dissatisfaction with delays? Blaming transit workers for system performance is also pretty controversial; most would probably attribute that to incompetent management or stingy taxpayers?