4 ms·

"Do you see the psychological paradox of Federalization?" No, it is exactly what I am talking about ;-) I just wanted to point out, that for Luxemburg to join

"Do you see the psychological paradox of Federalization?" No, it is exactly what I am talking about ;-) I just wanted to point out, that for Luxemburg to join the rounds EU-de-legitimizers is a whole new ball game. Just an example: LUX politicians were pushing for the EU to make "Letzebuergisch" an official language of its own, while linguistically its just a variety of German (not even a dialect). Although that attempt failed (because science), the audacity gives a hint of how much Luxemburg gained from the EU so far. It shows how much incompetence and disarray is present in the European political leadership at the moment, if even Luxemburg is starting to delegitimizing EU institutions.

alexasmyths 9y ago
It's perfectly reasonable for nation states to challenge the EU institutions, because the 'legitimacy' of EU institutions is not arbitrary - it depends on the support of member states! If an EU institution is challenged by most members - it should absolutely be 'de-legitimized' and closed down! This is the problem with the pro-Federalist psychology - added to the reality of 'bureaucracies that can only grow' - we 'assume' that a given EU entity should have supremacy, and not be 'undermined'? Why not? Who gave that EU organ power in the first place, and why does it have it? I don't really support Lux's attempts to continue their low-tax status, but maybe they have a point. As far as the Lux language - I think your argument is a stretch. Surely you know there are a zillion languages in the EU, each close to some other language. Having Luxembourgish 'recognized' doesn't necessarily carry them any favour or economic advantage, so I don't see how it's super relevant. I see what you are trying to get at - I just don't think that specific case is a good example.
mgiannopoulos 9y ago
> that attempt failed (because science) Nothing to do with science and more about the actual use of Luxembourgese as an official written language by Luxembourg itself. See here http://termcoord.eu/2015/11/why-letzebuergesch-is-not-an-official-eu-language/ http://termcoord.eu/2015/11/why-letzebuergesch-is-not-an-off...

alexasmyths 9y ago

It's perfectly reasonable for nation states to challenge the EU institutions, because the 'legitimacy' of EU institutions is not arbitrary - it depends on the support of member states! If an EU institution is challenged by most members - it should absolutely be 'de-legitimized' and closed down! This is the problem with the pro-Federalist psychology - added to the reality of 'bureaucracies that can only grow' - we 'assume' that a given EU entity should have supremacy, and not be 'undermined'? Why not? Who gave that EU organ power in the first place, and why does it have it? I don't really support Lux's attempts to continue their low-tax status, but maybe they have a point. As far as the Lux language - I think your argument is a stretch. Surely you know there are a zillion languages in the EU, each close to some other language. Having Luxembourgish 'recognized' doesn't necessarily carry them any favour or economic advantage, so I don't see how it's super relevant. I see what you are trying to get at - I just don't think that specific case is a good example.

mgiannopoulos 9y ago

> that attempt failed (because science) Nothing to do with science and more about the actual use of Luxembourgese as an official written language by Luxembourg itself. See here http://termcoord.eu/2015/11/why-letzebuergesch-is-not-an-official-eu-language/ http://termcoord.eu/2015/11/why-letzebuergesch-is-not-an-off...