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Wait, GHB? Are we talking about the liquid that can be either a solvent GBL or cooked with baking soda to neutralize it to GHB and make it less dangerous? Two

by pimeys 9y ago

Wait, GHB? Are we talking about the liquid that can be either a solvent GBL or cooked with baking soda to neutralize it to GHB and make it less dangerous? Two millilitres too much of GBL and you pass out, a bit more with GHB. Of course if you can keep it in control, you can have lots of fun. But I wouldn't list it with MDMA and LSD, which are tremendously more safe than GHB.

Broken_Hippo 9y ago
Ok. Lets take a look at how this would be administered legally. I'm going to assume they'll have measured doses with the precision of a prescription drug. It'll probably be cut with some food-grade and safe substance to make it easier to measure as an alternative. If dosage is dependent on body mass, the store employee measures this before dispensing your dose. There is a strict limit on the number of doses a person can safely buy.
- pimeys 9y ago
  There needs to be somebody with a pipette dosing the right amount, keeping track of the time that you don't take the next dose in less than an hour and guards to prevent you from drinking alcohol. Or we have lots of naked people climbing to the trees, fainted or dead. We've seen this in the Berlin gay community. People don't know how to dose GBL, almost nobody knows how to cook GHB. It's common to have an ambulance coming to the clubs every weekend to pick up another overdose. GHB feels like a better alcohol when done right, but it is notoriously hard to dose right. You might not feel anything after 45 minutes of the first dose, drink more and pass out.
  - Broken_Hippo 9y ago
    That'd be basically what I'd push for - someone with a pipette dosing the right amount. One only gets their dose with ID from a licensed administrator, who would also know how to do all the prep safely. Plus we could do all the education stuff - informing folks about not feeling it for a time. Then again, if it proves to be too dangerous in legal setting, perhaps we could work on researching a safer alternative with similar effects.

by pimeys 9y ago

Broken_Hippo 9y ago

Ok. Lets take a look at how this would be administered legally. I'm going to assume they'll have measured doses with the precision of a prescription drug. It'll probably be cut with some food-grade and safe substance to make it easier to measure as an alternative. If dosage is dependent on body mass, the store employee measures this before dispensing your dose. There is a strict limit on the number of doses a person can safely buy.

pimeys 9y ago
There needs to be somebody with a pipette dosing the right amount, keeping track of the time that you don't take the next dose in less than an hour and guards to prevent you from drinking alcohol. Or we have lots of naked people climbing to the trees, fainted or dead. We've seen this in the Berlin gay community. People don't know how to dose GBL, almost nobody knows how to cook GHB. It's common to have an ambulance coming to the clubs every weekend to pick up another overdose. GHB feels like a better alcohol when done right, but it is notoriously hard to dose right. You might not feel anything after 45 minutes of the first dose, drink more and pass out.
- Broken_Hippo 9y ago
  That'd be basically what I'd push for - someone with a pipette dosing the right amount. One only gets their dose with ID from a licensed administrator, who would also know how to do all the prep safely. Plus we could do all the education stuff - informing folks about not feeling it for a time. Then again, if it proves to be too dangerous in legal setting, perhaps we could work on researching a safer alternative with similar effects.