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Where is the HD footage that actually shows features of the mysterious "unidentified objects"? Why is all the evidence grainy and obscured? The prospect that

Where is the HD footage that actually shows features of the mysterious "unidentified objects"? Why is all the evidence grainy and obscured? The prospect that life from another star system traveled hundreds of trillions of kilometers, only to hide for the past few decades, peeking out briefly for low-quality photoshoots, is beyond absurd.

mratzloff 9y ago
I don't know if alien spacecraft have visited Earth or not, but nothing says they would have to be piloted by aliens. If they exist, they could just as easily be robotic drones.
- dwaltrip 9y ago
  That's a good point. Of course, it's possible. I just think it should be the last explanation we consider, after definitively crossing everything else off the list.
- mistersquid 9y ago
  > If they exist, they could just as easily be robotic drones. While perhaps literally included in the group of "robotic drones", one interesting possibility would be craft piloted by highly-developed machine intelligence, what we might call sentient AI.
probably_wrong 9y ago
I once tried to take a picture of a deer, that I saw running away from me and hiding behind a tree. I knew perfectly well were it was, in which direction it would go, and had enough time to set my phone's camera properly. And yet, thanks to a slow auto-focus and low light, my pictures ended up a blurry, unrecognizable mess. Not even I would believe my story. I gained a lot of respect that day for people who claim to have seen something and yet have no evidence other than blurry, shaky films. If I couldn't do it under perfect conditions, I don't expect a random guy to become all of a sudden a great photographer. In fact, if I wanted to get a picture of a plane right now, with the equipment I have at hand, it would be barely more than a small, dark spot. I don't know whether UFOs are real (and, even if they are, if they really are aliens and not weird, unknown airplane prototypes). But the lack of HD footage would not be on my top list of reasons against it.
- chronic193 9y ago
  We have a god damn piece of metal on Mars and it can send back HD self-portraits. Seeing is believing.
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- valuearb 9y ago
  Intelligent Aliens aren’t deer, anyone who has mastered interstellar travel are closer to god’s in terms of the power they’d have over us. No need to hide, and probably impossible to hide their massive power sources.
  - frankquist 9y ago
    I am quite skeptical of this having to do anything with aliens, but the "they wouldn't need to hide angle" confounds me. It acts like the only motivation in an interspecies relationship would be minimizing vulnerability. The more vulnerable species would need to hide, the less vulnerable one wouldn't. Is this genuinely the only motivation possible? I'd say that's a lack of imagination. Scientists exploring animal species also often don't want to disturb their research subject, to avoid changing their behavior. An alien species might have a nonintervention clause akin to Starfleet. Perhaps even, a certain property of one of our technologies or our culture is somehow dangerous to another species, who might have a philosophical disinclination towards conflict and thus they do not want to disturb us. Perhaps their gear doesn't have much of a defense system given someone decided to cut some budget somewhere. Employ a little imagination! It's probably all bunk but it's way more fun to look at news like this that way.
  - sumedh 9y ago
    > No need to hide Maybe they dont want make contact with a primitive species?
    - valuearb 9y ago
      Why would they care? We don’t hide from ants.
gfodor 9y ago
Almost all of the UFO reports whose evidence consists entirely upon video evidence can be discarded immediately, so claims like those made in this thread that write off all unexplained UFOs as being optical illusions, bugs on lenses, are red herrings because the cases that are interesting are very easily ruled out as being visual artifacts or failures in human perception. What remains are cases that usually involve multiple professional pilots, with witnesses on ground and in air, combined with radar signatures and ground control tracking to confirm the existence of the object's presence.
StanislavPetrov 9y ago
Imagine going back in time only 100 years and trying to explain to someone that you can hold all the world's knowledge on a little plastic gadget that you can hold in your hand and that the gadget is also a camera that can shoot and play high definition videos. Most would say that is beyond absurd. I find it beyond absurd to speculate about what is or isn't possible when we know so little.
noetic_techy 9y ago
Do you think ants look up at us and say to themselves "We'll surely if they were highly intelligent they would contact the queen!" The truth is, IF (big if) it is super advanced aliens, they would have more reason not to contact us. This notion that we deserve formal contact is whats absurd. What exactly would they have to gain that they couldn't glean from stealthy observation and even deception to keep us off thier track?

mratzloff 9y ago

I don't know if alien spacecraft have visited Earth or not, but nothing says they would have to be piloted by aliens. If they exist, they could just as easily be robotic drones.

dwaltrip 9y ago
That's a good point. Of course, it's possible. I just think it should be the last explanation we consider, after definitively crossing everything else off the list.
mistersquid 9y ago
> If they exist, they could just as easily be robotic drones. While perhaps literally included in the group of "robotic drones", one interesting possibility would be craft piloted by highly-developed machine intelligence, what we might call sentient AI.

probably_wrong 9y ago

I once tried to take a picture of a deer, that I saw running away from me and hiding behind a tree. I knew perfectly well were it was, in which direction it would go, and had enough time to set my phone's camera properly. And yet, thanks to a slow auto-focus and low light, my pictures ended up a blurry, unrecognizable mess. Not even I would believe my story. I gained a lot of respect that day for people who claim to have seen something and yet have no evidence other than blurry, shaky films. If I couldn't do it under perfect conditions, I don't expect a random guy to become all of a sudden a great photographer. In fact, if I wanted to get a picture of a plane right now, with the equipment I have at hand, it would be barely more than a small, dark spot. I don't know whether UFOs are real (and, even if they are, if they really are aliens and not weird, unknown airplane prototypes). But the lack of HD footage would not be on my top list of reasons against it.

chronic193 9y ago
We have a god damn piece of metal on Mars and it can send back HD self-portraits. Seeing is believing.
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valuearb 9y ago
Intelligent Aliens aren’t deer, anyone who has mastered interstellar travel are closer to god’s in terms of the power they’d have over us. No need to hide, and probably impossible to hide their massive power sources.
- frankquist 9y ago
  I am quite skeptical of this having to do anything with aliens, but the "they wouldn't need to hide angle" confounds me. It acts like the only motivation in an interspecies relationship would be minimizing vulnerability. The more vulnerable species would need to hide, the less vulnerable one wouldn't. Is this genuinely the only motivation possible? I'd say that's a lack of imagination. Scientists exploring animal species also often don't want to disturb their research subject, to avoid changing their behavior. An alien species might have a nonintervention clause akin to Starfleet. Perhaps even, a certain property of one of our technologies or our culture is somehow dangerous to another species, who might have a philosophical disinclination towards conflict and thus they do not want to disturb us. Perhaps their gear doesn't have much of a defense system given someone decided to cut some budget somewhere. Employ a little imagination! It's probably all bunk but it's way more fun to look at news like this that way.
- sumedh 9y ago
  > No need to hide Maybe they dont want make contact with a primitive species?
  - valuearb 9y ago
    Why would they care? We don’t hide from ants.

gfodor 9y ago

Almost all of the UFO reports whose evidence consists entirely upon video evidence can be discarded immediately, so claims like those made in this thread that write off all unexplained UFOs as being optical illusions, bugs on lenses, are red herrings because the cases that are interesting are very easily ruled out as being visual artifacts or failures in human perception. What remains are cases that usually involve multiple professional pilots, with witnesses on ground and in air, combined with radar signatures and ground control tracking to confirm the existence of the object's presence.

StanislavPetrov 9y ago

Imagine going back in time only 100 years and trying to explain to someone that you can hold all the world's knowledge on a little plastic gadget that you can hold in your hand and that the gadget is also a camera that can shoot and play high definition videos. Most would say that is beyond absurd. I find it beyond absurd to speculate about what is or isn't possible when we know so little.

noetic_techy 9y ago

Do you think ants look up at us and say to themselves "We'll surely if they were highly intelligent they would contact the queen!" The truth is, IF (big if) it is super advanced aliens, they would have more reason not to contact us. This notion that we deserve formal contact is whats absurd. What exactly would they have to gain that they couldn't glean from stealthy observation and even deception to keep us off thier track?