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The brand is Bluedio. They have pretty good reviews considering the price. I have used Xiaomi before and was amazed by quality/price. I was hoping Bluedio, whic

by jacek 9y ago

The brand is Bluedio. They have pretty good reviews considering the price. I have used Xiaomi before and was amazed by quality/price. I was hoping Bluedio, which is another Chinese brand would be also good. I was wrong. EDIT: Here's the fake review analysis for the headphones: https://www.fakespot.com/product/bluedio-f2-faith-active-noise-cancelling-over-ear-business-wireless-bluetooth-headphones-with-mic-black https://www.fakespot.com/product/bluedio-f2-faith-active-noi...

nasredin 9y ago
>Bluedio Sorry to be a bit of an asshole. Do not buy Chinese crap. It's a lottery. My Sennheisers (made of plastic BTW) have been in use since 2014. My previous Sennheisers broke (just the headband) after a couple of years. Bought $30 Taiwanese headphones, good Amazon reviews, but the headband is too small. And the microphonics is terrible. Sigh. Recently bought boots, Made in China. Size is about 1.5 units off. For a certain class of goods and for reasonable price points, you do get what you pay for.
- jacek 9y ago
  That's true. Buying Chinese electronics is a lottery (usually). I would, however, recommend some Xiaomi products. They are really excellent considering the price. BTW I actually ended up buying Sennheiser headphones after I returned the crappy ones.
  - nasredin 9y ago
    Well the actual driver inside should last you a lifetime, the plasticky headband on the other hand... --- Also related: The Sennheisers branded ear pads or Brainwavz (IIRC) ear pads are a bit expensive ($20+). You can get generic "memory" foam ones on AliExpress for $4. It's not actually memory foam and they might send you the wrong type, and it's a tight fit (just remember to breathe !?) but they work.
- slantyyz 9y ago
  >> Do not buy Chinese crap. It's a lottery. Most of the problematic products as they relate to reviews on Amazon are Chinese products. When I used to do incentivized reviews, all but one single company who approached me for a product review (this does not include eBook authors) was not Chinese. >> For a certain class of goods and for reasonable price points, you do get what you pay for. This is 100% true, but I find a lot of Chinese products punched above their weight. During my time reviewing, I turned down the cheap sketchy products and focused mainly on stuff that I wanted that looked like they were well made. And you know what, a lot of the products I got were actually fantastic relative to their selling price.
- 50CNT 9y ago
  Its a lottery you can throw with research. Say you want bookshelf speakers. Going with the budget pick I might get Pioneer SP-BS22-LRs, but they're around 4500RMB here in China. Other reputable brands come in around 10000RMB, which is so far outside my budget its not even funny. But most of these speakers are made in China anyways, so you start sleuthing. K, i find a post on an Audiophile forum that tells me that HiVi(/Swan) makes the drivers for most upscale Audio equipment. Let's check what HiVi has. Ahh, they've got a bloody gorgeous pair of speakers for 1699RMB[0], and a passable one for 699RMB, and an official Taobao store. And they'll do. Boots I would not buy from China, in China, you can return them and test. For budget headphones, Senneheiser is what I get in Germany, Tascam if you're in the US, JVC for Asia. Don't know any Chinese brands of note there. For smartphones Xiaomi is blowing it out of the water right now. Their Redmi（红米） line is incredible value. Then there's Huawei, Meizu, OPPO, Honor, and whatever Hammer(Chuizi) is. [0]https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=542718449070&ns=1&abbucket=18&skuId=3427015431775 https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=542718449070&ns=1&abbuc...
- lobster_johnson 9y ago
  I bought a Bang & Olufsen Bluetooth speaker this year. It broke after a month. It was just sitting on a table. I've also bought some no-name Chinese crap Bluetooth earbuds that have never failed. All of this is really anecdotal, and it's a complete lottery.
- pilsetnieks 9y ago
  > My previous Sennheisers broke (just the headband) after a couple of years Let me guess, HD280 Pro? It seems they've fixed that for HD380s.
  - tintar 9y ago
    right? I have a HD280 from ~12 years ago? the headband started to disintegrate maybe 5 years ago but it's still quite usable at home and the sound and comfort is still as wonderful. bought a 2nd pair maybe 5+ years ago when it was discounted at literally half-price, so that's the one that gets taken outside on field-trips.
    - Nition 9y ago
      Joining this bandwagon. The headband on mine just sort of started to disintegrate into a weird sticky mess after 2-3 years. Then someone pulled them open too hard and cracked the plastic. Mine are from 2004, still working perfectly, but the whole headband area is now pretty much duct tape and glue.
      - nasredin 9y ago
        Duct tape and glue? I got angry, took my drill, a piece of metal, couple of screws and connected the whole thing Mad Max style. Yes, they were quite uncomfortable. And you couldn't really wear them in public too. --- And yes hd380s seem to have longer lasting headband than the hd280s.
    - the-dude 9y ago
      I have a pair of HD450 from ~1990 and they are still going strong, I have replaced the cusions though.
dingo_bat 9y ago
For Bluetooth headphones, I just blindly get whatever Sony has at my budget. It has worked well for me till now.
- scholia 9y ago
  I've never heard a Sony audio product that actually sounded bad, and I've owned a lot of them, including earbuds, headphones, MP3 players, cassette players, audio systems, Blu-ray, SACD and MiniDisc ;-) They haven't all been the best sounding, or even the best value, but they've all had decent sound quality. Some of them have had exceptional sound quality.
  - sound1 9y ago
    I have to agree. I owned several Sony audio products and listened to many (earbuds, amps and portable players) and they always sounded good for the money. I especially like the way their portable players sound, they seem to have really nice amps. (Darn, had to create an account to post this comment)

by jacek 9y ago

nasredin 9y ago

>Bluedio Sorry to be a bit of an asshole. Do not buy Chinese crap. It's a lottery. My Sennheisers (made of plastic BTW) have been in use since 2014. My previous Sennheisers broke (just the headband) after a couple of years. Bought $30 Taiwanese headphones, good Amazon reviews, but the headband is too small. And the microphonics is terrible. Sigh. Recently bought boots, Made in China. Size is about 1.5 units off. For a certain class of goods and for reasonable price points, you do get what you pay for.

jacek 9y ago
That's true. Buying Chinese electronics is a lottery (usually). I would, however, recommend some Xiaomi products. They are really excellent considering the price. BTW I actually ended up buying Sennheiser headphones after I returned the crappy ones.
- nasredin 9y ago
  Well the actual driver inside should last you a lifetime, the plasticky headband on the other hand... --- Also related: The Sennheisers branded ear pads or Brainwavz (IIRC) ear pads are a bit expensive ($20+). You can get generic "memory" foam ones on AliExpress for $4. It's not actually memory foam and they might send you the wrong type, and it's a tight fit (just remember to breathe !?) but they work.
slantyyz 9y ago
>> Do not buy Chinese crap. It's a lottery. Most of the problematic products as they relate to reviews on Amazon are Chinese products. When I used to do incentivized reviews, all but one single company who approached me for a product review (this does not include eBook authors) was not Chinese. >> For a certain class of goods and for reasonable price points, you do get what you pay for. This is 100% true, but I find a lot of Chinese products punched above their weight. During my time reviewing, I turned down the cheap sketchy products and focused mainly on stuff that I wanted that looked like they were well made. And you know what, a lot of the products I got were actually fantastic relative to their selling price.
50CNT 9y ago
Its a lottery you can throw with research. Say you want bookshelf speakers. Going with the budget pick I might get Pioneer SP-BS22-LRs, but they're around 4500RMB here in China. Other reputable brands come in around 10000RMB, which is so far outside my budget its not even funny. But most of these speakers are made in China anyways, so you start sleuthing. K, i find a post on an Audiophile forum that tells me that HiVi(/Swan) makes the drivers for most upscale Audio equipment. Let's check what HiVi has. Ahh, they've got a bloody gorgeous pair of speakers for 1699RMB[0], and a passable one for 699RMB, and an official Taobao store. And they'll do. Boots I would not buy from China, in China, you can return them and test. For budget headphones, Senneheiser is what I get in Germany, Tascam if you're in the US, JVC for Asia. Don't know any Chinese brands of note there. For smartphones Xiaomi is blowing it out of the water right now. Their Redmi（红米） line is incredible value. Then there's Huawei, Meizu, OPPO, Honor, and whatever Hammer(Chuizi) is. [0]https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=542718449070&ns=1&abbucket=18&skuId=3427015431775 https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=542718449070&ns=1&abbuc...
lobster_johnson 9y ago
I bought a Bang & Olufsen Bluetooth speaker this year. It broke after a month. It was just sitting on a table. I've also bought some no-name Chinese crap Bluetooth earbuds that have never failed. All of this is really anecdotal, and it's a complete lottery.
pilsetnieks 9y ago
> My previous Sennheisers broke (just the headband) after a couple of years Let me guess, HD280 Pro? It seems they've fixed that for HD380s.
- tintar 9y ago
  right? I have a HD280 from ~12 years ago? the headband started to disintegrate maybe 5 years ago but it's still quite usable at home and the sound and comfort is still as wonderful. bought a 2nd pair maybe 5+ years ago when it was discounted at literally half-price, so that's the one that gets taken outside on field-trips.
  - Nition 9y ago
    Joining this bandwagon. The headband on mine just sort of started to disintegrate into a weird sticky mess after 2-3 years. Then someone pulled them open too hard and cracked the plastic. Mine are from 2004, still working perfectly, but the whole headband area is now pretty much duct tape and glue.
    - nasredin 9y ago
      Duct tape and glue? I got angry, took my drill, a piece of metal, couple of screws and connected the whole thing Mad Max style. Yes, they were quite uncomfortable. And you couldn't really wear them in public too. --- And yes hd380s seem to have longer lasting headband than the hd280s.
  - the-dude 9y ago
    I have a pair of HD450 from ~1990 and they are still going strong, I have replaced the cusions though.

dingo_bat 9y ago

For Bluetooth headphones, I just blindly get whatever Sony has at my budget. It has worked well for me till now.

scholia 9y ago
I've never heard a Sony audio product that actually sounded bad, and I've owned a lot of them, including earbuds, headphones, MP3 players, cassette players, audio systems, Blu-ray, SACD and MiniDisc ;-) They haven't all been the best sounding, or even the best value, but they've all had decent sound quality. Some of them have had exceptional sound quality.
- sound1 9y ago
  I have to agree. I owned several Sony audio products and listened to many (earbuds, amps and portable players) and they always sounded good for the money. I especially like the way their portable players sound, they seem to have really nice amps. (Darn, had to create an account to post this comment)