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Do we really need an update to a web browser every 6 weeks? A web browser should display information FULL STOP. When the new HTML standard comes out, implement

Do we really need an update to a web browser every 6 weeks? A web browser should display information FULL STOP. When the new HTML standard comes out, implement it. Until then just provide security fixes. It's really not that hard or expensive (500 Million USD should be enough). Stop changing the UI, adding crap that should be addons (that's why there's addons), adding adverts, adding spyware ("telemetry"), etc. --- Curiously all the Mozilla developers and apologists who are so enthusiastic about defending Firefox (and down voting critical comments) have taken the day off...

acqq 9y ago
> Until then just provide security fixes. You'd lose the non-security bug fixes and the performance improvements. I wouldn't like it, and it would surely be obsolete/irrelevant extremely fast.
- nasredin 9y ago
  Regarding the performance improvements. Sometimes it seems it's more about job security. How many rewrites do you need? Mozilla's Law: (Use McConaughey Voice) As Intel processors get faster... Mozilla's software stays the same... speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law
kyledrake 9y ago
> Curiously all the Mozilla developers and apologists who are so enthusiastic about defending Firefox (and down voting critical comments) have taken the day off... I mean, it's Saturday, so yeah, they probably did. This comments section looks more like a pitchfork mob than a group that wants to have a reasonable and civil conversation about embedded extension policy and revenue models. I myself would prefer to spend it with my loved ones than arguing with a comments section mob on the internet.
- tobbyb 9y ago
  It's interesting you choose to frame overwhelming dissent and anger at shady behavior as a 'mob'. By summarily dismissing a bunch of legitimate concerns by multiple users you are basically saying users don't matter. That kind of ivory tower attitude never worked well without leverage.
ryukafalz 9y ago
Mozilla still makes SeaMonkey, which might be what you're looking for: https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Up to date browser engine (at least it seems that way, it does pretty well on https://html5test.com/ https://html5test.com/), still gets security fixes, but the UI hasn't been changed significantly in years.
hutzlibu 9y ago
But you realise, that the web today is a bit more than static HTML and that it doesn't upgrade step by step with arbitrary standards, but rather all the time?
y_u_no_rust 9y ago
> Do we really need an update to a web browser every 6 weeks? considering how overly complicated and insecure browsers have become, probably yeah

acqq 9y ago

> Until then just provide security fixes. You'd lose the non-security bug fixes and the performance improvements. I wouldn't like it, and it would surely be obsolete/irrelevant extremely fast.

nasredin 9y ago
Regarding the performance improvements. Sometimes it seems it's more about job security. How many rewrites do you need? Mozilla's Law: (Use McConaughey Voice) As Intel processors get faster... Mozilla's software stays the same... speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law

kyledrake 9y ago

> Curiously all the Mozilla developers and apologists who are so enthusiastic about defending Firefox (and down voting critical comments) have taken the day off... I mean, it's Saturday, so yeah, they probably did. This comments section looks more like a pitchfork mob than a group that wants to have a reasonable and civil conversation about embedded extension policy and revenue models. I myself would prefer to spend it with my loved ones than arguing with a comments section mob on the internet.

tobbyb 9y ago
It's interesting you choose to frame overwhelming dissent and anger at shady behavior as a 'mob'. By summarily dismissing a bunch of legitimate concerns by multiple users you are basically saying users don't matter. That kind of ivory tower attitude never worked well without leverage.

ryukafalz 9y ago

Mozilla still makes SeaMonkey, which might be what you're looking for: https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Up to date browser engine (at least it seems that way, it does pretty well on https://html5test.com/ https://html5test.com/), still gets security fixes, but the UI hasn't been changed significantly in years.

hutzlibu 9y ago

But you realise, that the web today is a bit more than static HTML and that it doesn't upgrade step by step with arbitrary standards, but rather all the time?

y_u_no_rust 9y ago

> Do we really need an update to a web browser every 6 weeks? considering how overly complicated and insecure browsers have become, probably yeah