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In the past, there was another extreme in societies when raped woman could be considered guilty for inappropriate seduction of a men. So those victims could be
by hal9000xp 9y ago
In the past, there was another extreme in societies when raped woman could be considered guilty for inappropriate seduction of a men. So those victims could be crucified by society and in some cases even sent to prison.
There were some important changes in societies which made women in many modern countries much more emancipated. This is no doubt was very positive change for economies (more educated workforce) and live in general (free love versus arranged marriage).
In recent decade or two, third wave-feminism took off and ballooned to the point when it became pretty ugly and full of systemic-hate towards males. What I mean by systemic-hate is that under the flag of gender equality, feminists try to explain any disparity between men and women as systemic oppression and discrimination driven by men.
So now, we can see overstretched definitions of rape and harassment and absurd claims that 25% of women experienced sexual assault etc (so called "rape culture", a bizzare term on its own). Just making sexual harassment allegations is enough to consider a person guilty. So any woman can forever destroy carrier of any man just by making such allegations. I can easily imagine situation where socially awkward male tries to make awkward flirt with female and, in response, she will easily destroy his career and life.
I can imagine that sexual self-esteem of young males could be massively degraded in hostile environment created by third-wave feminists. I'm so glad I lived my 20ties in Russia and not being influenced by this bizarre new leftist culture.
As one friend of mine called - horizontal totalitarianism: anyone who question third-wave feminism's dogmas would be crucified/banned and fired for being sexist, supportive of rape (what an absurd!!!!), and against gender equality, considering women as inferior to men etc
When I lived in Russia, I romanticized western world based on movies and politics of 80s and 90s. I imagined western world as individualist and free-market paradise free from government's heavy hand. I imagined that people in the west are open minded and I looked at feminism positively. Now, I'm deeply disappointment by what I see...
- iak8god 9y ago> In the past, there was another extreme in societies when raped woman could be considered guilty for inappropriate seduction of a men. That still happens in some societies today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatif_rape_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatif_rape_case > So now, we can see overstretched definitions of rape and harassment and absurd claims that 25% of women experienced sexual assault etc You need to get to know some women.
- pron 9y agoUnfortunately, those "absurd claims" are backed by irrefutable data, and their reality is undeniable. If this fact is not personally familiar to you, consider it an opportunity to discover something new (albeit sad) about the world we all live in, and try to learn more about it. I can tell that the facts of the history of the West are unknown to you because "this bizarre new leftist culture" is over 150 years old, and the main change has been a constant decline in the intensity of feminism over that period (read up on what levels of violent protest were required for women to get the right to vote). Feminism today is far more timid than it was 100 years ago. These are well-known historical facts that you can read about everywhere.
- imh 9y agoI agree that there are some oversteps in the current atmosphere (e.g. equating asking someone out for drinks with harassment [0]), but this doesn't seem like that kind of case at all. >One night after the conference talks were over, a bunch of conference participants and I went for a swim in the ocean. While I was swimming around, S repeatedly grabbed me under the water, putting his hands on my torso, hips, and thighs. I tried to play it off and swim away. He picked me up and pulled me into his chest. He then started to carry me away from the rest of the group, presumably to have some sort of private moment with me that I had absolutely no interest in sharing with him. I struggled, gently at first and then more forcefully, and he let me go. Serious question, is that (a quote from OP) something you'd call overreach? [0] https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/11/daily-chart-14 https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/11/daily-...
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