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Yeah, you're right. Apparently many news sites that discontinued their comment sections did so, because moderation was too resource intensive and they argued th

by trahn 9y ago

Yeah, you're right. Apparently many news sites that discontinued their comment sections did so, because moderation was too resource intensive and they argued that more and more discussion takes place on social networks. I don't really have the moderation issue for the extension right now, as I'm using FB comments. So, it's FB's responsibility; you can just use their regular report function. Another advantage with FB is, I think, their real-name-policy (if they still have that?); so comments shouldn't tend to get that out of hand - I hope. :D

CodeWriter23 9y ago
People are allowed to use pseudonyms on Facebook, if it is the name you are typically referred to as. Also, it’s trivial to make fake Facebook accounts. Or purchase them for about a dime a dozen.
- trahn 9y ago
  Makes sense, but I feel FB has more spam measures in place then, say, Disqus.
  - CodeWriter23 9y ago
    Just sharing my observations. IMO the FB report button is often used to silence legitimate critics. As someone who cared for my family’s ecommerce efforts, and having been targeted by fake reviews by competitors on Amazon, my concern is that type of abuse. Probably not something of concern for your project at this stage. Perhaps down the road if you achieve good traction, which I wish you well in achieving. Sorry if my feedback sounds very critical, perhaps you can relate, I map out problem spaces to help me make solutions.
    - trahn 9y ago
      Yeah, definitely see the FB reporting as a threat as well. Coming from Germany, we just made them censor stuff by law, which is scary, I think. No worries, didn't really take it critical. :)
brownbat 9y ago
> as I'm using FB comments [Smacks forehead.] That definitely explains why it looked so much like FB comments. That's a neat approach. FB moderation handles spam and blatant trolls. Next layer moderation - promoting insightful content / burying lazy content - was more what I was thinking of originally. But that is such a tough problem here. Maybe unsolvable with comments on something so sparse as, well, literally everything online. Wikipedia has a whole (sometimes hyper vigilant) army of volunteers, and that's a tiny subset of this problem. Hmm, yeah, I think you're probably at least at the local optimum with FB stopping spam and trolls. Good stuff.
- trahn 9y ago
  > [Smacks forehead.] That definitely explains why it looked so much like FB comments. That's a neat approach. FB moderation handles spam and blatant trolls. :) I'm always hopeful, that users can take over this kind of moderation by up-/down-voting (only up-voting in the case of FB, I guess). But yeah, the sparseness is a real problem. I'm trying to approach it by promoting to specific communities. But might be a tough road ahead.. :D (As many have pointed out here with approaches that have been tried before.)

by trahn 9y ago

CodeWriter23 9y ago

People are allowed to use pseudonyms on Facebook, if it is the name you are typically referred to as. Also, it’s trivial to make fake Facebook accounts. Or purchase them for about a dime a dozen.

trahn 9y ago
Makes sense, but I feel FB has more spam measures in place then, say, Disqus.
- CodeWriter23 9y ago
  Just sharing my observations. IMO the FB report button is often used to silence legitimate critics. As someone who cared for my family’s ecommerce efforts, and having been targeted by fake reviews by competitors on Amazon, my concern is that type of abuse. Probably not something of concern for your project at this stage. Perhaps down the road if you achieve good traction, which I wish you well in achieving. Sorry if my feedback sounds very critical, perhaps you can relate, I map out problem spaces to help me make solutions.
  - trahn 9y ago
    Yeah, definitely see the FB reporting as a threat as well. Coming from Germany, we just made them censor stuff by law, which is scary, I think. No worries, didn't really take it critical. :)

brownbat 9y ago

> as I'm using FB comments [Smacks forehead.] That definitely explains why it looked so much like FB comments. That's a neat approach. FB moderation handles spam and blatant trolls. Next layer moderation - promoting insightful content / burying lazy content - was more what I was thinking of originally. But that is such a tough problem here. Maybe unsolvable with comments on something so sparse as, well, literally everything online. Wikipedia has a whole (sometimes hyper vigilant) army of volunteers, and that's a tiny subset of this problem. Hmm, yeah, I think you're probably at least at the local optimum with FB stopping spam and trolls. Good stuff.

trahn 9y ago
> [Smacks forehead.] That definitely explains why it looked so much like FB comments. That's a neat approach. FB moderation handles spam and blatant trolls. :) I'm always hopeful, that users can take over this kind of moderation by up-/down-voting (only up-voting in the case of FB, I guess). But yeah, the sparseness is a real problem. I'm trying to approach it by promoting to specific communities. But might be a tough road ahead.. :D (As many have pointed out here with approaches that have been tried before.)