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> This is stupid easy. Don't make sexual advances at work. Yet if you're a male, you can still end up falsely accused of sexual harassment, because she didn't

by dozzie 9y ago

> This is stupid easy. Don't make sexual advances at work. Yet if you're a male, you can still end up falsely accused of sexual harassment, because she didn't like you, she wants your position, she misunderstood you, or she was just a bitch who likes undeserved attention, ruining somebody's life in the process. There were examples of that, and while I don't claim they were numerous, they are the source of the chilling effect.

austincheney 9y ago
> Yet if you're a male, you can still end up falsely accused of sexual harassment Historically, this is exceedingly rare. Nobody wants the negative attention that comes from exposure of a false allegation.
- fgjjgutjvnu 9y ago
  Would you say it is exceedingly rare that rape victims are not believed? How do you distinguish the two?
- haZard_OS 9y ago
  It has happened to me three times in less than a year. Thankfully, I have been recording nearly all of my conversations for quite some time. In EVERY instance, I was treated like a piece of garbage until I managed to produce my recordings from storage. I have become increasingly paranoid about being around people because of this.
  - austincheney 9y ago
    A false allegation is fraud. Where these people fired? If not I would go work somewhere else, as permitting fraud is perhaps as toxic as permitting sexually aggressive behaviors.
    - dozzie 9y ago
      > A false allegation is fraud. This part is not the problem. The problem is that if you're falsely accused, it's on you to prove that you're not a horse, which will require enormous effort or an unusual foresight. A similar thing to the problem in US of stealing identity. If somebody impersonates you and takes a credit in your name (and you have no control over that, because your personal data could have been lost by some Equifax), suddenly it's your problem to fend off debt collectors.

by dozzie 9y ago

austincheney 9y ago

> Yet if you're a male, you can still end up falsely accused of sexual harassment Historically, this is exceedingly rare. Nobody wants the negative attention that comes from exposure of a false allegation.

fgjjgutjvnu 9y ago
Would you say it is exceedingly rare that rape victims are not believed? How do you distinguish the two?
haZard_OS 9y ago
It has happened to me three times in less than a year. Thankfully, I have been recording nearly all of my conversations for quite some time. In EVERY instance, I was treated like a piece of garbage until I managed to produce my recordings from storage. I have become increasingly paranoid about being around people because of this.
- austincheney 9y ago
  A false allegation is fraud. Where these people fired? If not I would go work somewhere else, as permitting fraud is perhaps as toxic as permitting sexually aggressive behaviors.
  - dozzie 9y ago
    > A false allegation is fraud. This part is not the problem. The problem is that if you're falsely accused, it's on you to prove that you're not a horse, which will require enormous effort or an unusual foresight. A similar thing to the problem in US of stealing identity. If somebody impersonates you and takes a credit in your name (and you have no control over that, because your personal data could have been lost by some Equifax), suddenly it's your problem to fend off debt collectors.