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To me it seems like a witch hunt nowadays. You need just an unverified comment to get fired and to wear a mark of blemish for life. When the mobs filled with "r

To me it seems like a witch hunt nowadays. You need just an unverified comment to get fired and to wear a mark of blemish for life. When the mobs filled with "righteous hatred" are judge and jury of a non-existent trial we know that there is something scarily wrong with our society.

joshuamorton 9y ago
Has this guy been fired?
- tigershark 9y ago
  For now suspended, but do you reckon that his life and his career would proceed like before? I believe that he is finished. I don't think that he should go unscathed if he really behaved inappropriately, but between that and destroying him based on an unverified comment there is an ocean in the middle.
  - joshuamorton 9y ago
    So you think that he'll be fired next week without Google verifying the allegations?
1024core 9y ago
I hear these kinds of comments every time there's some pushback against such behavior. Despite your shrill protestations, there is no "mob filled with righteous hatred" going around. Where action is being taken, it is with a preponderance of evidence. Only those who have actually indulged in such behavior need to worry.
- tigershark 9y ago
  Excuse me? How would you find "preponderance of evidence" for a leg touch? I'm genuinely curious. Once while I was stretching on my chair in the office I bumped inadvertently with one colleague that was passing behind me. Do you think that I should be fired and my career ended if she suddenly wrote in a blog post that I touched her?
  - dang 9y ago
    The blog post now linked to above describes much more and much worse than a "leg touch".
    - candiodari 9y ago
      Plus it's not like for this individual there is any shortage of women testifying publicly and privately to his behavior.
  - emj 9y ago
    That seems hypothetical, if you did that and sent private messages etc. then I do think there should be some repercussions. I've seen those accusations happen twice and no one got fired, but both victim quit shortly after. This did get an discussion going about how to deal with it, and there were very few people who thought it was a firing offence. I hope that is changing with younger more aware people getting into the workplace.
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- glogla 9y ago
  Have you heard of donglegate?
EliRivers 9y ago
Although we did already know that there is something scarily wrong with our society, given the ease with which many predators have routinely been molesting, coercing and raping for decades.
mcguire 9y ago
"You need just an unverified comment to get fired and to wear a mark of blemish for life." Do you have an example of that?

joshuamorton 9y ago

Has this guy been fired?

tigershark 9y ago
For now suspended, but do you reckon that his life and his career would proceed like before? I believe that he is finished. I don't think that he should go unscathed if he really behaved inappropriately, but between that and destroying him based on an unverified comment there is an ocean in the middle.
- joshuamorton 9y ago
  So you think that he'll be fired next week without Google verifying the allegations?

1024core 9y ago

I hear these kinds of comments every time there's some pushback against such behavior. Despite your shrill protestations, there is no "mob filled with righteous hatred" going around. Where action is being taken, it is with a preponderance of evidence. Only those who have actually indulged in such behavior need to worry.

tigershark 9y ago
Excuse me? How would you find "preponderance of evidence" for a leg touch? I'm genuinely curious. Once while I was stretching on my chair in the office I bumped inadvertently with one colleague that was passing behind me. Do you think that I should be fired and my career ended if she suddenly wrote in a blog post that I touched her?
- dang 9y ago
  The blog post now linked to above describes much more and much worse than a "leg touch".
  - candiodari 9y ago
    Plus it's not like for this individual there is any shortage of women testifying publicly and privately to his behavior.
- emj 9y ago
  That seems hypothetical, if you did that and sent private messages etc. then I do think there should be some repercussions. I've seen those accusations happen twice and no one got fired, but both victim quit shortly after. This did get an discussion going about how to deal with it, and there were very few people who thought it was a firing offence. I hope that is changing with younger more aware people getting into the workplace.
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glogla 9y ago
Have you heard of donglegate?

EliRivers 9y ago

Although we did already know that there is something scarily wrong with our society, given the ease with which many predators have routinely been molesting, coercing and raping for decades.

mcguire 9y ago

"You need just an unverified comment to get fired and to wear a mark of blemish for life." Do you have an example of that?