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How will Tesla enforce this policy? Tracking vehicle usage data, looking for lots of short trip patterns? Looking for rideshare decals (drivers would be wise to
by jasonjei 9y ago
How will Tesla enforce this policy? Tracking vehicle usage data, looking for lots of short trip patterns? Looking for rideshare decals (drivers would be wise to use removable decals)? Asking Uber/Lyft to share VIN numbers of registered cars?
- ams6110 9y agoLooking for cars with Uber placards parked at superchargers?
- jasonjei 9y agoWhat if the placards are removable?
- tytytytytytytyt 9y agoWhy bother if you have access to vehicle and supercharging data?
- ams6110 9y agoJust saying, there are simple ways that don't involve deep statistical analysis of driving data. Incidentally this is a reason I'll probably never buy a Tesla. I don't care for the manufacturer of my car to be logging every trip I take and every location I visit.
- 35bge57dtjku 9y agoAs if it's not already via your cell phone?
- gruez 9y agodo all uber/lyft cars have identifying features? i thought those were optional.
- Fogest 9y agoSome cities require them, however they are removable stickers and you can easily take them off.
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- zeep 9y agoIf you are looking for Uber drivers, your Tesla car could probably list cellphones that took a ride in itself by detecting wireless signals? If X cellphones detected in Y amount of time, it might be suspect...
- nikanj 9y agoJust suspect cars that do more than x hours of driving per day, averaged over a long-ish period. Very, very few people do personal driving for tens of hours per week
- ajross 9y ago"Expecting people to follow the rules." This works better than you'd think.
- raverbashing 9y agoOk so I pull up and start charging my Tesla, then what?
- greglindahl 9y agoAlmost all Tesla owners rarely supercharge.
- ajross 9y agoYour battery gets full and you drive off, having essentially stolen energy (more properly, parking-socket-time, which is the resource Tesla is trying to conserve) in violation of your contract. It's the same answer you get for "OK so I stuff this candy bar in my pocket and walk out, then what?". Shoplifting is trivially easy too.
- r00fus 9y agoWe know Tesla has extensive data. They know how much you charge and which vehicles observe a pattern that indicates commercial usage. They could probably tell with a 2-sigma confidence rate and simply offer concessions to those improperly flagged.
- Matheus28 9y agoFunny thing is that during the initial handshake with the supercharger, it doesn't even check if the VIN the car provides is a Tesla VIN. It's only used for logging purposes and it'll still provide charge anyway. (You can test this by tapping into the CAN bus while the car is being plugged in. This was true at least a few months ago)
- greglindahl 9y agoWhat's that usual disclosure statement for mutual funds? Past performance does not guarantee future returns. I totally believe you, but that doesn't mean that won't change.
- Matheus28 9y agoOf course. But I'm betting that they'll drag their feet as much as possible before implementing such blacklist. Just making an announcement saves so much engineering time :)