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Suppose I were to grant that transgenderism is a mental illness. Why would we ban the word? The CDC's job is to deal with dissease, so this would put transgende

Suppose I were to grant that transgenderism is a mental illness. Why would we ban the word? The CDC's job is to deal with dissease, so this would put transgenderism squarely in the purview of what they should be talking about. The reason to ban them from using the word is because you do not like what they say when they do talk about it.

djsumdog 9y ago
Whenever people say mental illness in the same sentence as issues relating to transgendered people: first you don't care about them. The phrase "mental illness" is never used to uplift people in America. It is seen as derogatory. This is why we have HIPPA; so you can see a professional and talk about serious issues without stigma. Most western countries are fairly free. You are free to do what you want within a couple of reasonable limits. If you want to act in ways that are normally associated with the opposite gender, go for it. There's nothing wrong with that and that's how society and culture change. When someone looks at themselves in the mirror every morning and sees something that isn't them; e.g. if they see a fat person when they're 160cm and 45kg .. that's dysphoria. It can lead to anorexia and other forms of self harm. When people feel they would be better off without and arm or a leg, and then find a surgeon to preform an unnecessary amputation, some will preform it just so they don't try to harm, and potentially kill, themselves. But there is a disconnect there with what they see and what they are. When someone sees themselves in a mirror and see the biological gender they aren't born with, and desires to mutilate their genitals .. well that is their right. You can do what you want to your body, just like the person who wants to amputate their arm or starve themselves. But if you try to have that conversation in today's world -- it is a very difficult one to rationally have. If you actually cared about the person, you don't throw around words like "mental illness." You do that because you hate. You are the reason we can't have these very real conversations.
- ams6110 9y ago
  > If you actually cared about the person, you don't throw around words like "mental illness." You do that because you hate. I think you're too absolute there. Certainly many people can talk about mental illness and the mentally ill without hateful intent.
- labster 9y ago
  This feels like a personal attack against someone who agrees with you.
  - djsumdog 9y ago
    It was aimed at the previous comment, but it got flagged for deletion before I could reply.
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djsumdog 9y ago

Whenever people say mental illness in the same sentence as issues relating to transgendered people: first you don't care about them. The phrase "mental illness" is never used to uplift people in America. It is seen as derogatory. This is why we have HIPPA; so you can see a professional and talk about serious issues without stigma. Most western countries are fairly free. You are free to do what you want within a couple of reasonable limits. If you want to act in ways that are normally associated with the opposite gender, go for it. There's nothing wrong with that and that's how society and culture change. When someone looks at themselves in the mirror every morning and sees something that isn't them; e.g. if they see a fat person when they're 160cm and 45kg .. that's dysphoria. It can lead to anorexia and other forms of self harm. When people feel they would be better off without and arm or a leg, and then find a surgeon to preform an unnecessary amputation, some will preform it just so they don't try to harm, and potentially kill, themselves. But there is a disconnect there with what they see and what they are. When someone sees themselves in a mirror and see the biological gender they aren't born with, and desires to mutilate their genitals .. well that is their right. You can do what you want to your body, just like the person who wants to amputate their arm or starve themselves. But if you try to have that conversation in today's world -- it is a very difficult one to rationally have. If you actually cared about the person, you don't throw around words like "mental illness." You do that because you hate. You are the reason we can't have these very real conversations.

ams6110 9y ago
> If you actually cared about the person, you don't throw around words like "mental illness." You do that because you hate. I think you're too absolute there. Certainly many people can talk about mental illness and the mentally ill without hateful intent.
labster 9y ago
This feels like a personal attack against someone who agrees with you.
- djsumdog 9y ago
  It was aimed at the previous comment, but it got flagged for deletion before I could reply.

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