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Yes. So tired of hearing about this story as if it were the end of the world in tech circles - ones that would normally be opposed to increased regulation of th

Yes. So tired of hearing about this story as if it were the end of the world in tech circles - ones that would normally be opposed to increased regulation of the internet. I predict this whole thing will be a nothingburger, and in a year there will be no major ISPs seriously trying to sell "Netflix/YouTube packages" or the like. If I'm wrong, I'll eat crow, but I seriously doubt it.

jbob2000 9y ago
You are mistaken. These types of packages are already visible around the world, here's one from Indonesia: https://imgur.com/gallery/nKZ2yeq https://imgur.com/gallery/nKZ2yeq The business model is already proven, the American ISPs just need to copy it. It would not surprise me to know that they have systems and plans hiding in the wings.
- Cyberdog 9y ago
  Hypotheticals do not make me mistaken.
- mofino 9y ago
  Just stop it. This is for MOBILE PHONES. Phones have a modem in them, the carrier can use this to manage data on a per app basis. This is NOT THE REAL WORLD OF THE INTERNET. Fuck I can't stand this shit.
- ocfx 9y ago
  You realize those have all been proven to be fake right?
- spurcell93 9y ago
  The poster is not necessarily mistaken even if I think they are.
bb88 9y ago
It's more because the ISP can now charge tolls in both directions, so prices for streaming services will hike up. This effectively allows the ISP to sell their one pipe to the internet twice. They can go to YouTube and Netflix and say, "You haven't paid us to send your content down your pipes." Meanwhile saying to the consumer "You need to pay us so you can get access to the internet." So, some ISP's will still allow access to the internet. While others will allow access, to what I call, the interNOT. Edited to add: I suspect that someday someone will come up with some legislation that says if you don't have access to the full internet, then an ISP can't call it "internet service". Because it's not.
- sjg007 9y ago
  First ISPs with content arms like cable tv will throttle internet tv providers and movie providers. Second they will ask for a cut of googles and facebooks ad revenues.
- icodestuff 9y ago
  Already exists via FTC regulation. It's why mobile data isn't sold as internet access.

jbob2000 9y ago

You are mistaken. These types of packages are already visible around the world, here's one from Indonesia: https://imgur.com/gallery/nKZ2yeq https://imgur.com/gallery/nKZ2yeq The business model is already proven, the American ISPs just need to copy it. It would not surprise me to know that they have systems and plans hiding in the wings.

Cyberdog 9y ago
Hypotheticals do not make me mistaken.
mofino 9y ago
Just stop it. This is for MOBILE PHONES. Phones have a modem in them, the carrier can use this to manage data on a per app basis. This is NOT THE REAL WORLD OF THE INTERNET. Fuck I can't stand this shit.
ocfx 9y ago
You realize those have all been proven to be fake right?
spurcell93 9y ago
The poster is not necessarily mistaken even if I think they are.

bb88 9y ago

It's more because the ISP can now charge tolls in both directions, so prices for streaming services will hike up. This effectively allows the ISP to sell their one pipe to the internet twice. They can go to YouTube and Netflix and say, "You haven't paid us to send your content down your pipes." Meanwhile saying to the consumer "You need to pay us so you can get access to the internet." So, some ISP's will still allow access to the internet. While others will allow access, to what I call, the interNOT. Edited to add: I suspect that someday someone will come up with some legislation that says if you don't have access to the full internet, then an ISP can't call it "internet service". Because it's not.

sjg007 9y ago
First ISPs with content arms like cable tv will throttle internet tv providers and movie providers. Second they will ask for a cut of googles and facebooks ad revenues.
icodestuff 9y ago
Already exists via FTC regulation. It's why mobile data isn't sold as internet access.