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I wonder if it will have an impact at all. They say big websites will pay for fast delivery and small websites will have their data delivered slower. I have a

by TekMol 9y ago

I wonder if it will have an impact at all. They say big websites will pay for fast delivery and small websites will have their data delivered slower. I have a small website. I already pay for bandwith. What will change? Will I be charged more for fast bandwith?

rbjorklin 9y ago
That’s what most people fear right now. It would potentially make it harder for new companies to compete with giants as they will not be able to pay the premium required to provide an equally fast service.
- TekMol 9y ago
  But how is that different to any other resource? In the same vein you could say new companies cannot pay the premium for fast servers, big databases, expensive marketing, top talent...
  - hungerstrike 9y ago
    So, it sounds like your argument is that because life sucks for new companies in some ways, it's OK if we make it suck for them in all ways. Should the same go for people? Are you looking forward to possibly seeing ISPs nickel-and-dime you to death, e.g. with "packaged internets" products that limit the sites you can visit based on how much you pay? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15934044 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15934044
    - icodestuff 9y ago
      I don't believe we'll actually see it on wireline internet service. And it's already legal on mobile in the US, but we don't see it because it becomes more uneconomical as connection speed gets faster.
  - Can_Not 9y ago
    Because Netflix has to pay for their fast server, their fast internet, and now they also have to pay for my fast internet while I'm already paying for my fast internet.
Cyberdog 9y ago
If you have a small website, you probably don't need "fast bandwidth" in the first place. Are you hosting streaming video and the like? ISPs may prioritize traffic for services like Netflix to reduce latency for their services. Yes, this may mean traffic for standard text-and-graphics web sites get slowed down a bit, but latency on those kinds of sites do not degrade the user experience as latency on streaming video. (I remember when the Sega Dreamcast launched, Sega also launched an ISP which somehow prioritized Dreamcast game traffic so that your online Dreamcast games had less theoretical latency. I suppose "gamer ISPs" could become a thing again too.)

by TekMol 9y ago

rbjorklin 9y ago

That’s what most people fear right now. It would potentially make it harder for new companies to compete with giants as they will not be able to pay the premium required to provide an equally fast service.

TekMol 9y ago
But how is that different to any other resource? In the same vein you could say new companies cannot pay the premium for fast servers, big databases, expensive marketing, top talent...
- hungerstrike 9y ago
  So, it sounds like your argument is that because life sucks for new companies in some ways, it's OK if we make it suck for them in all ways. Should the same go for people? Are you looking forward to possibly seeing ISPs nickel-and-dime you to death, e.g. with "packaged internets" products that limit the sites you can visit based on how much you pay? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15934044 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15934044
  - icodestuff 9y ago
    I don't believe we'll actually see it on wireline internet service. And it's already legal on mobile in the US, but we don't see it because it becomes more uneconomical as connection speed gets faster.
- Can_Not 9y ago
  Because Netflix has to pay for their fast server, their fast internet, and now they also have to pay for my fast internet while I'm already paying for my fast internet.

Cyberdog 9y ago

If you have a small website, you probably don't need "fast bandwidth" in the first place. Are you hosting streaming video and the like? ISPs may prioritize traffic for services like Netflix to reduce latency for their services. Yes, this may mean traffic for standard text-and-graphics web sites get slowed down a bit, but latency on those kinds of sites do not degrade the user experience as latency on streaming video. (I remember when the Sega Dreamcast launched, Sega also launched an ISP which somehow prioritized Dreamcast game traffic so that your online Dreamcast games had less theoretical latency. I suppose "gamer ISPs" could become a thing again too.)