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I really like this. Gets rid of a ton of backend boilerplate. I really like the fact that I can do straight SQL when necessary. I haven't read the docs in deta

by ccleve 9y ago

I really like this. Gets rid of a ton of backend boilerplate. I really like the fact that I can do straight SQL when necessary. I haven't read the docs in detail, so maybe you have answers for this, but I would really like to see a couple of things. First, a quick and dirty starter app for the front end. Just a straight CRUD app to save me some time. Do it in Vue or React. Second, I want to see a path to getting this on my own servers. If I write an app and it takes off, I'll want to have direct database access, maybe front the db with memcached, do some distributed things, add my own custom API calls, whatever. Would hate to be trapped on someone else's SaaS. Give me a way to license the software and take it on-premise.

pbreit 9y ago
Shouldn't a simple back-end be easy enough to spin up such that this is not that attractive? For example, I use Web2py[1] which includes Fabric and bash scripts to setup a server and deploy your apps. Then you get to work with non-proprietary Python, Postgres, etc. https://github.com/web2py/web2py/blob/master/fabfile.py https://github.com/web2py/web2py/blob/master/fabfile.py
faizshah 9y ago
I agree, I think they could even go further with integration into something like atomic.io. You could develop real working prototypes in a day full stack, then focus on market research and iterating your design.
- appdrag 9y ago
  We do have something similar but for websites / web apps fully integrated with Cloud Backend. You can check the CMS part here: https://appdrag.com https://appdrag.com Our goal is exactly that, provide a full stack solution in the browser. We do have free tier for the CMS & the Backend part so you can prototype for free :)
appdrag 9y ago
Hey ccleve, thanks for the suggestions, we will definitely offer samples for popular frameworks like Vue, React, Angular and others. We have thinked about an on-premise version but in that case you loose all the benefits of a serverless cloud solution, and you have to do the maintenance & scaling yourself. Moreover there is no lock-in with Cloud Backend, at any time to can import and export your database to MySQL, you can also export your whole API with source code. Btw, it's not only a DB API, you can also create your own functions in node.js, python, c#, java and more to come (PHP very soon) The idea behind Cloud Backend is to offer an instant backend creation without any maintenance required and an attractive price for small to medium projects :)
artpar 9y ago
If you are looking for an open-source solution then checkout https://docs.dapt.in https://docs.dapt.in

by ccleve 9y ago

pbreit 9y ago

Shouldn't a simple back-end be easy enough to spin up such that this is not that attractive? For example, I use Web2py[1] which includes Fabric and bash scripts to setup a server and deploy your apps. Then you get to work with non-proprietary Python, Postgres, etc. https://github.com/web2py/web2py/blob/master/fabfile.py https://github.com/web2py/web2py/blob/master/fabfile.py

faizshah 9y ago

I agree, I think they could even go further with integration into something like atomic.io. You could develop real working prototypes in a day full stack, then focus on market research and iterating your design.

appdrag 9y ago
We do have something similar but for websites / web apps fully integrated with Cloud Backend. You can check the CMS part here: https://appdrag.com https://appdrag.com Our goal is exactly that, provide a full stack solution in the browser. We do have free tier for the CMS & the Backend part so you can prototype for free :)

appdrag 9y ago

Hey ccleve, thanks for the suggestions, we will definitely offer samples for popular frameworks like Vue, React, Angular and others. We have thinked about an on-premise version but in that case you loose all the benefits of a serverless cloud solution, and you have to do the maintenance & scaling yourself. Moreover there is no lock-in with Cloud Backend, at any time to can import and export your database to MySQL, you can also export your whole API with source code. Btw, it's not only a DB API, you can also create your own functions in node.js, python, c#, java and more to come (PHP very soon) The idea behind Cloud Backend is to offer an instant backend creation without any maintenance required and an attractive price for small to medium projects :)

artpar 9y ago

If you are looking for an open-source solution then checkout https://docs.dapt.in https://docs.dapt.in