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Hopefully, it's a bug, and that addon wasn't intended to be installed (much less active) universally like it is. That doesn't make it OK, but it would make me

Hopefully, it's a bug, and that addon wasn't intended to be installed (much less active) universally like it is. That doesn't make it OK, but it would make me look at them with suspicion instead of hostility.

gr3yh47 9y ago
>Hopefully, it's a bug, and that addon wasn't intended to be installed (much less active) universally like it is. hey look, a voice of reason! seriously. Mozilla is a company that has a long track record of dedication to openness and the free and open internet this isnt Google, facebook, etc let's all take a step back and give them a little benefit of the doubt here, until we get some facts on what happened. for everyone else... WANT TO JOIN THE MOB? I'VE GOT YOU COVERED! COME ON DOWN TO GR3YH47'S PITCHFORK EMPORIUM! I GOT 'EM ALL! SETTING UP SHOP IN HACKERNEWS MEANS BIG SALES! CHEAP TRADITIONAL FORKS! ON SALE! Traditional ---E Left Handed 3--- Fancy ---{ DEFECTIVE CLEARANCE ARE EVEN LOWER! ---F ---L ---e NEW IN STOCK. DIRECTLY FROM LICHTENSTEIN. EUROPEAN MODELS! ---€ ---£ *some assembly required
- nickpeterson 9y ago
  Don't forget torches, you have to burn down the evil castle or else they'll just hide until everyone leaves.
- icebraining 9y ago
  Mozilla is a company that has a long track record of dedication to openness and the free and open internet True, and that's why I never stopped and recommending Firefox since I first installed Phoenix. That said, they're already installing and enabling Cliqz by default (for some users), and that's no bug. So it's not absurd that people might assume this isn't either. Reputation is hard to gain and easy to lose.
- ufo 9y ago
  I think this /r/pitchforkemporium stuff is better suited to Reddit than HackerNews.
- kuschku 9y ago
  > let's all take a step back and give them a little benefit of the doubt here, until we get some facts on what happened. Except for: Google Analytics being used on the Firefox Addons menu – solved by adding, in grey text on grey background, a tiny "Privacy Policy" link: https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/issues/2785 https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/issues/2785 Automatically sending URLs visited of random German Firefox users to a German company (CliqZ) owned by a publishing, advertisement and tracking company (Burda): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15421708 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15421708 Mozilla forcefully enabling toolkit.telemetry.enabled in Nightly and Developer versions, and, upon being asked, saying that "below the download link is a text telling you that by downloading these, you opt-in to telemetry". Benefit of the doubt is over, it’s time to get the pitchforks out.
- narag 9y ago
  >>Hopefully, it's a bug, and that addon wasn't intended to be installed (much less active) universally like it is. >hey look, a voice of reason! Where's official statement saying it's a bug and it will be disabled ASAP? All I see is Mozilla workers here trying to justity the "bug".
  - callahad 9y ago
    I'm not happy with how this rolled out, and I'm not here to justify it. I wasn't involved in its development, so I can't speak to its origin or the decision to use Shield for distribution, but I can gather feedback and answer technical questions about Firefox and the add-on.

gr3yh47 9y ago

>Hopefully, it's a bug, and that addon wasn't intended to be installed (much less active) universally like it is. hey look, a voice of reason! seriously. Mozilla is a company that has a long track record of dedication to openness and the free and open internet this isnt Google, facebook, etc let's all take a step back and give them a little benefit of the doubt here, until we get some facts on what happened. for everyone else... WANT TO JOIN THE MOB? I'VE GOT YOU COVERED! COME ON DOWN TO GR3YH47'S PITCHFORK EMPORIUM! I GOT 'EM ALL! SETTING UP SHOP IN HACKERNEWS MEANS BIG SALES! CHEAP TRADITIONAL FORKS! ON SALE! Traditional ---E Left Handed 3--- Fancy ---{ DEFECTIVE CLEARANCE ARE EVEN LOWER! ---F ---L ---e NEW IN STOCK. DIRECTLY FROM LICHTENSTEIN. EUROPEAN MODELS! ---€ ---£ *some assembly required

nickpeterson 9y ago
Don't forget torches, you have to burn down the evil castle or else they'll just hide until everyone leaves.
icebraining 9y ago
Mozilla is a company that has a long track record of dedication to openness and the free and open internet True, and that's why I never stopped and recommending Firefox since I first installed Phoenix. That said, they're already installing and enabling Cliqz by default (for some users), and that's no bug. So it's not absurd that people might assume this isn't either. Reputation is hard to gain and easy to lose.
ufo 9y ago
I think this /r/pitchforkemporium stuff is better suited to Reddit than HackerNews.
kuschku 9y ago
> let's all take a step back and give them a little benefit of the doubt here, until we get some facts on what happened. Except for: Google Analytics being used on the Firefox Addons menu – solved by adding, in grey text on grey background, a tiny "Privacy Policy" link: https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/issues/2785 https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/issues/2785 Automatically sending URLs visited of random German Firefox users to a German company (CliqZ) owned by a publishing, advertisement and tracking company (Burda): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15421708 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15421708 Mozilla forcefully enabling toolkit.telemetry.enabled in Nightly and Developer versions, and, upon being asked, saying that "below the download link is a text telling you that by downloading these, you opt-in to telemetry". Benefit of the doubt is over, it’s time to get the pitchforks out.
narag 9y ago
>>Hopefully, it's a bug, and that addon wasn't intended to be installed (much less active) universally like it is. >hey look, a voice of reason! Where's official statement saying it's a bug and it will be disabled ASAP? All I see is Mozilla workers here trying to justity the "bug".
- callahad 9y ago
  I'm not happy with how this rolled out, and I'm not here to justify it. I wasn't involved in its development, so I can't speak to its origin or the decision to use Shield for distribution, but I can gather feedback and answer technical questions about Firefox and the add-on.