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I don't know what the hell is going on with Mozilla. Ever tried to install Firefox on Android? The new tab page is full of ads by default! And this is the comp

by shak77 9y ago

I don't know what the hell is going on with Mozilla. Ever tried to install Firefox on Android? The new tab page is full of ads by default! And this is the company we are supposed to trust? Because right now I feel like I trust Google more, and that's a lot to say.

jhiska 9y ago
We can't argue with your feelings.
- shak77 9y ago
  Then these pages should not be full of feelings: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/internet-health/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/internet-health/
  - positivecomment 9y ago
    Could you please be more clear? I disabled all my extensions and still don't see anything there that is based on feelings?
    - keb_ 9y ago
      I think they are feeling betrayed by Mozilla, and that they are saying language like "We all love the web" and "Internet for people" inspires feelings.
      - jhiska 9y ago
        You could have asked me what I meant.
_e 9y ago
To solve this "problem" on android, check this xposed framework module: http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.defim.apk.unbelovedhosts http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.defim.apk.unbelovedhosts
teekert 9y ago
Adds are annoying yes, but they are only bad for your privacy if they track and profile you. Adds allow for free stuff and they can be done the right way. Granted this is becoming more and more rare so I understand your standard association of adds with distrust. The adds you refer to are non tracking (please tell me if I'm wrong though) and will slowly be replaced by sites you visit (often).
- Karunamon 9y ago
  Ads abuse the user's time, attention, and privacy. Minus the tracking, that's still two factors of abuse rather than three.
  - teekert 9y ago
    How do they abuse your privacy without tracking? Of course if they didn't abuse your time and attention they wouldn't make sense. But someone has to be paying Firefox's development, and it is not you. I'll take that last part back if you contribute to Mozilla. Hey, maybe it's an idea for a donation: make a 5$ Firefox without adds. I'd pay. To bad part goes to Google that way.
    - makecheck 9y ago
      The irony is that people pay, just not to the right place. Every unnecessarily-bloated download tears through data plans and costs people money to their ISP that never makes it to the provider. I want plain-text ads that provide just as much revenue to web sites but without obnoxious experiences and fat downloads.
      - palunon 9y ago
        > Every unnecessarily-bloated download tears through data plans and costs people money to their ISP Only in third internet world countries like the US... Elsewhere, we don't have limited data plans.
        9y ago
grawprog 9y ago
No. Firefox was too big for my old phone and I switched to palemoon when firefox stopped allowing unsigned plugins on my desktop. I've been using habit browser on my phone. I don't really trust it at all so I give it minimal permissions and try not to do any browsing on my phone I don't expect to be tracked or monitored. It's fast and customizable and has a built in adblocker so I've been fairly happy with it. I've tried a lot of different mobile browsers. I haven't really found any I liked. They all kinda suck in one way or another. I was really hoping something from F-Droid would be appealing to use but they were all disappointing. The state of mobile browsers in general is kind of abysmal.

by shak77 9y ago

jhiska 9y ago

We can't argue with your feelings.

shak77 9y ago
Then these pages should not be full of feelings: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/internet-health/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/internet-health/
- positivecomment 9y ago
  Could you please be more clear? I disabled all my extensions and still don't see anything there that is based on feelings?
  - keb_ 9y ago
    I think they are feeling betrayed by Mozilla, and that they are saying language like "We all love the web" and "Internet for people" inspires feelings.
    - jhiska 9y ago
      You could have asked me what I meant.

_e 9y ago

To solve this "problem" on android, check this xposed framework module: http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.defim.apk.unbelovedhosts http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.defim.apk.unbelovedhosts

teekert 9y ago

Adds are annoying yes, but they are only bad for your privacy if they track and profile you. Adds allow for free stuff and they can be done the right way. Granted this is becoming more and more rare so I understand your standard association of adds with distrust. The adds you refer to are non tracking (please tell me if I'm wrong though) and will slowly be replaced by sites you visit (often).

Karunamon 9y ago
Ads abuse the user's time, attention, and privacy. Minus the tracking, that's still two factors of abuse rather than three.
- teekert 9y ago
  How do they abuse your privacy without tracking? Of course if they didn't abuse your time and attention they wouldn't make sense. But someone has to be paying Firefox's development, and it is not you. I'll take that last part back if you contribute to Mozilla. Hey, maybe it's an idea for a donation: make a 5$ Firefox without adds. I'd pay. To bad part goes to Google that way.
  - makecheck 9y ago
    The irony is that people pay, just not to the right place. Every unnecessarily-bloated download tears through data plans and costs people money to their ISP that never makes it to the provider. I want plain-text ads that provide just as much revenue to web sites but without obnoxious experiences and fat downloads.
    - palunon 9y ago
      > Every unnecessarily-bloated download tears through data plans and costs people money to their ISP Only in third internet world countries like the US... Elsewhere, we don't have limited data plans.
      - 9y ago

grawprog 9y ago

No. Firefox was too big for my old phone and I switched to palemoon when firefox stopped allowing unsigned plugins on my desktop. I've been using habit browser on my phone. I don't really trust it at all so I give it minimal permissions and try not to do any browsing on my phone I don't expect to be tracked or monitored. It's fast and customizable and has a built in adblocker so I've been fairly happy with it. I've tried a lot of different mobile browsers. I haven't really found any I liked. They all kinda suck in one way or another. I was really hoping something from F-Droid would be appealing to use but they were all disappointing. The state of mobile browsers in general is kind of abysmal.