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People Still Don't Get the Link Between the Number of People on this Planet and Climate Change (I hardly eat meat these days, but nothing will help if the popu
by eastendguy 9y ago
People Still Don't Get the Link Between the Number of People on this Planet and Climate Change
(I hardly eat meat these days, but nothing will help if the population continues to grow at the same rate)
- 1457389 9y agoIn Which Eastendguy Obfuscates the Much Stronger Nature of the Link Between Profligate Western Meat Consumption Patterns and Climate Change
- kbart 9y ago"Much Stronger Nature of the Link" Citation needed. I would bet my money that growth of population and urbanization has bigger impact than meat industry.
- Yusho 9y agoThat's exactly why the rule of 72 should be thought more often. Just seeing how quickly the population can double at the current growth rate is an eye opener. 72 / 1.1 = 65 Years Meat isn't the problem, endless growth is.
- nine_k 9y agoDo regions with most growth also eat most meat, per capita?
- Yusho 9y agoWhen we look at the 3 countries with the most growth in combination with meat consumption (data from wikipedia) 1. China 58.2 kg/person and year 2. India 4.4 kg/person and year 3. USA 120.2 kg/person and year There are very big differences that have more to do with culture and income rather than growth. sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_cons...
- emodendroket 9y agoNo.
- newscracker 9y agoPopulation growth doesn’t remain static. It’s not going to double in the time frame you’ve projected. In fact, it’s not going to reach that figure for much longer, if at all. Hans Rosling’s talks (on TED and YouTube) throw a lot of light on the peak population we’d likely reach, the reasons for those and also what we can do to control it (the key is educating girls). He died some months ago, but his talks and work are engaging and illuminating.
- melling 9y agoI don’t get the connection either. The United States with 4% of the world’s population produces a lot of CO2. India with 4 times the number of people produced half as much. China with 4 times the number of people now produces twice as much as the US. China’s CO2 surged in the past two decades. Finally, does this have anything to do with meat? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_...
- lozenge 9y agoA lot of China's CO2 production is to create goods that are purchased by the US and other developed countries. http://m.pnas.org/content/107/12/5687 http://m.pnas.org/content/107/12/5687 And yes, some 15% of humans' GHG production can be attributed to meat.
- melling 9y agoThe first line states this: “CO2 emissions from the burning of fossil fuels are the primary cause of global warming” China uses almost much coal as the rest of the world combined: https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=16271 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=16271 That chart seems to correlate with China’s emission increases: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions#/media/File%3ACarbon_dioxide_emissions_due_to_consumption_in_China.png https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_...
- lozenge 9y agoI don't disagree, I'm just pointing out that a lot of China's coal use is to power factories that export goods to the US. If China used anything other than the cheapest energy for their factories, you would be seeing "made in India/some other country more willing to pollute to save us a few cents" a lot more in Wal-Mart.
- vixen99 9y agoDepends which area. Europe is dying out with a fertility rate in most parts of much less than 2.1 as required for sustained population. https://jakubmarian.com/fertility-rate-by-region-in-europe/ https://jakubmarian.com/fertility-rate-by-region-in-europe/
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y agoPopulation will not continue to grow at the same rate. The global population is expected to level off within 100 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projections_of_population_growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projections_of_population_grow...