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> But under Tesla’s ownership, the company has largely stopped its aggressive marketing campaigns and ambitious expansion. From what I heard, that was more lik

by mtgx 9y ago

> But under Tesla’s ownership, the company has largely stopped its aggressive marketing campaigns and ambitious expansion. From what I heard, that was more like "aggressive salesmen." Perhaps Musk wanted a different more Tesla-like approach to sales, then the sleazy salesman persuading you to make the purchase at all costs. Even if that strategy results in more revenue in the short term, maybe Musk thought he doesn't want Tesla to be known for that type of purchase experience.

TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago
Off topic. Did you intentionally use the word then after the comma in the second sentence in the second paragraph "then the sleazy salesman"? I see this a lot here on HN where I assume the word should be than. Is this some regional dialect quirk?
- azernik 9y ago
  In most American accents, the two words are homophones, so misspelling one as the other in writing is quite common.
  - speedplane 9y ago
    Common, but not correct. That said, it's a random comment on hackernews, not quite the OED.
    - Gracana 9y ago
      Yes, it is usually the case that misspellings are incorrect. :P
    - azernik 9y ago
      I did say misspelling :-P
  - ballooney 9y ago
    'different then' is one of the clues in online written communication that the writer speaks American English (with some confusion), 'different than' is 'correct' american english (though seems odd to me as an english english [or just simply: english] speaker), 'different to' is, I believe, more common in english english but not american english, and 'different from' is probably the most correct and universal formulation, and I use the word 'correct' with all the usual caveats when applied to language.
    - ridgeguy 9y ago
      "Different than" and "different from" both appear to be accepted in American English, with "different from" having an edge for more formal writing. [1] [2] [1] http://www.dictionary.com/e/different-from-or-different-than/ http://www.dictionary.com/e/different-from-or-different-than... [2] https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/usage/different-from-than-or-to https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/usage/different-from-than-...
  - taneq 9y ago
    Oh, is that why we see the than/then typo so often? I never understood how you could mix the two up.
    - behringer 9y ago
      Yes they're pronounced exactly the same in the Midwest.
      - deleted 9y ago
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  - ballenf 9y ago
    I know a lot of Americans from all over the place and have never met one who pronounces those two words the same. At least not in the same way "pen" and "pin" are homophones in parts of the country. Nor how they're / their / there is for everyone.
    - jcranmer 9y ago
      "than" is usually unstressed, which means it's going to be largely reduced to a schwa. "then" would also be reduced to a schwa if it were unstressed, but it doesn't seem to be as frequently unstressed. When trying to transcribe the spoken thought to written text, the unstressed schwa is a lot closer to the 'e' in then than the 'a' in than, which probably explains the predilection for choosing "then" when "than" is meant. (I know I have a major tendency to write "then" when "than" is meant).
      - ghaff 9y ago
        I would never have said they were homonyms. That said, they're probably closer for people speaking with a bit of a Southern drawl than they would be with standard American pronunciation.
    - gervase 9y ago
      I'm born and raised in Los Angeles, and it's a homophone for me; you can add me as a data point to your pool.
- 35bge57dtjku 9y ago
  No, people are just lazy. It's not like people don't mix up the two in other regions.
amluto 9y ago
Instead they've gone for the very nice Tesla experience. You put down a deposit and no one contacts you for a month. You ask for specs (architectural and performance) and get squat. You call them and the sometimes return your phone call. You ask whether they can give a rough install date and you get squat. It's a roof for Pete's sake. I'm a bit surprised anyone puts up with this crap. A shoddy underspecified solar install above a roof is one thing. An actual roof, that's supposed to be waterproof and such, is rather different.
- lafar6502 9y ago
  Ha ha good luck if you plan to build a new house- maybe there are regions where you can live few years without a roof

by mtgx 9y ago

TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago

Off topic. Did you intentionally use the word then after the comma in the second sentence in the second paragraph "then the sleazy salesman"? I see this a lot here on HN where I assume the word should be than. Is this some regional dialect quirk?

azernik 9y ago
In most American accents, the two words are homophones, so misspelling one as the other in writing is quite common.
- speedplane 9y ago
  Common, but not correct. That said, it's a random comment on hackernews, not quite the OED.
  - Gracana 9y ago
    Yes, it is usually the case that misspellings are incorrect. :P
  - azernik 9y ago
    I did say misspelling :-P
- ballooney 9y ago
  'different then' is one of the clues in online written communication that the writer speaks American English (with some confusion), 'different than' is 'correct' american english (though seems odd to me as an english english [or just simply: english] speaker), 'different to' is, I believe, more common in english english but not american english, and 'different from' is probably the most correct and universal formulation, and I use the word 'correct' with all the usual caveats when applied to language.
  - ridgeguy 9y ago
    "Different than" and "different from" both appear to be accepted in American English, with "different from" having an edge for more formal writing. [1] [2] [1] http://www.dictionary.com/e/different-from-or-different-than/ http://www.dictionary.com/e/different-from-or-different-than... [2] https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/usage/different-from-than-or-to https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/usage/different-from-than-...
- taneq 9y ago
  Oh, is that why we see the than/then typo so often? I never understood how you could mix the two up.
  - behringer 9y ago
    Yes they're pronounced exactly the same in the Midwest.
    - deleted 9y ago
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- ballenf 9y ago
  I know a lot of Americans from all over the place and have never met one who pronounces those two words the same. At least not in the same way "pen" and "pin" are homophones in parts of the country. Nor how they're / their / there is for everyone.
  - jcranmer 9y ago
    "than" is usually unstressed, which means it's going to be largely reduced to a schwa. "then" would also be reduced to a schwa if it were unstressed, but it doesn't seem to be as frequently unstressed. When trying to transcribe the spoken thought to written text, the unstressed schwa is a lot closer to the 'e' in then than the 'a' in than, which probably explains the predilection for choosing "then" when "than" is meant. (I know I have a major tendency to write "then" when "than" is meant).
    - ghaff 9y ago
      I would never have said they were homonyms. That said, they're probably closer for people speaking with a bit of a Southern drawl than they would be with standard American pronunciation.
  - gervase 9y ago
    I'm born and raised in Los Angeles, and it's a homophone for me; you can add me as a data point to your pool.
35bge57dtjku 9y ago
No, people are just lazy. It's not like people don't mix up the two in other regions.

amluto 9y ago

Instead they've gone for the very nice Tesla experience. You put down a deposit and no one contacts you for a month. You ask for specs (architectural and performance) and get squat. You call them and the sometimes return your phone call. You ask whether they can give a rough install date and you get squat. It's a roof for Pete's sake. I'm a bit surprised anyone puts up with this crap. A shoddy underspecified solar install above a roof is one thing. An actual roof, that's supposed to be waterproof and such, is rather different.

lafar6502 9y ago
Ha ha good luck if you plan to build a new house- maybe there are regions where you can live few years without a roof