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Comcast to Customer Who Noticed Secretly Injected Code: Maybe It’s Your Fault
- Crontab 9y agoIt's a crying shame when you need a VPN to protect yourself from you ISP.
- AFNobody 9y agoIt would be a shame if your VPN was in the slow lane and could only push 56k because fast lane services being sold to "unsavory" businesses were against policy at the 2 major residential ISPs you can choose from.
- dorchadas 9y agoAnd only one of which offers reasonable speeds at reasonable prices.
- Feniks 9y agoDon't worry VPNs will be illegal soon ;)
- larrik 9y agoI love bashing Comcast, but this seems extremely overblown.
- philipwhiuk 9y agoYou think it's overblown they are performing DPI and a MiTM attack on content traversing across their network?
- kemitche 9y agoIF Comcast had actually been legitimately trying to contact the customer via other means (phone, letter, email) AND it was a significant issue (end of life on modem), then it's not unreasonable. I rather doubt that Comcast tried the phone route, and the article indicates that the modem was not EOL, so overall I think the injection was ridiculous.
- pdkl95 9y agoWillful copyright infringement[1] doesn't go away if you cannot contact the recipient of the unauthorized copy by "phone letter, email". Comcast is infringing the copyright of every webpage they modify without permission. [1] Modifying an HTML file[2] (or any other protected work) creates a "derivative work"[3\. Without permission from the original author, distributing a copy of a derivative work is copyright infringement. [2] Any "original work of authorship"[4] gains copyright protection when "fixed in any tangible medium of expression ... from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device."[4]. [3] "A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a 'derivative work'."[5] [4] 17 U.S. Code § 102 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/102 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/102 [5] 17 U.S. Code § 101 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/101 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/101
- nkurz 9y agoComcast is infringing the copyright of every webpage they modify without permission. They may or may not be, but you are foolish to assert that they are infringing based on on a few select quotes. Are you also going to assert that it's also a copyright infringement every time a browser caches part of a web page to disk, or when a user runs an script to change the layout of a page? Both arguments have been made, but as far as I know, there is no clear precedent for either. For better or worse, US law is based on case-law, and unless you can point to some previous cases where modifying a web page on the fly has been judged to be copyright infringement, there is nothing open-and-shut about it.
- smilekzs 9y ago> The user should have checked their email spam folder How about NO?
- tehlike 9y agoMore reasons to use free letsencrypt certs.
- GCU-Empiricist 9y agoThis is yet another example of why Comcast could not pay me to use their service.
- 0xdeadbeefbabe 9y agoI hope the guy at comcast searching through false positives gets paid.
- scarface74 9y agoMany people don't have a choice. Either Comcast or slow DSL from the phone company.
- 8ytecoder 9y agoThis is the sad reality in some cities in the Bay Area (of all the places in the world). With 4k content and at least 10 connected devices in a house going back to a 10Mbps line is a PITA. But a PITA we may have to live with to support local ISPs and express our displeasure with Comcast.
- steanne 9y agoi have the choice of comcast, slow dsl from the phone company, or fiber from the phone company. i choose the slow dsl because that has consumer protections from the state's utility commission. the fiber does not. the phone company is not too happy with me.
- khedoros1 9y agoI have the choice of Cox (which did this injected pop-up thing a few years ago, and for the same reason), and getting creative with mobile/satellite providers. Phone company says that I'm too far for DSL, and they haven't deployed fiber to this area. It would be nice if I had some kind of actual choice.
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- dang 9y agoUrl changed from https://gizmodo.com/comcast-to-customer-who-noticed-it-secretly-injecting-c-1821235362 https://gizmodo.com/comcast-to-customer-who-noticed-it-secre..., which points to this.
- steanne 9y agoa lot more discussion here[0], including responses from comcast's own jlivingood[1] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15890551 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15890551 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=jlivingood https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=jlivingood