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Republicans won the house popular vote 63.1 million to 61.8 million.

by Gargoyle 9y ago

the_cat_kittles 9y ago
239 r's 193 d's. the point is that house is gerrymandered to hell and favors r's.
- cmurf 9y ago
  Gill v. Whitford will be heard in the current term of the U.S. Supreme Court to look at this issue again. It has the potential to make an explosive difference in 2018. Look at the recent Alabama election. A Democrat won most of the votes in the state, and also won most of the votes in every single urban area. And yet applying that state wide vote to the House of Represenatives district map in Alabama, would have still sent one Democrat and six Republicans to House of Representatives in Congress (had it been an election for HoR rather than Senate). Even in the case were Democrats made double digit gains in most counties from the 2016 election, it still would not affect the representation in the House. This is a massive case of voter disenfranchisement. And while both parties gerrymander, only one party engages in the most obvious and egregiously unfair form of it while benefiting overwhelmingly and disproportionately, hence the lawsuit before the Court. And in the Alabama case, it is blatantly racist as well. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ862zWUIAAxWfa.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ862zWUIAAxWfa.jpg
  - the_cat_kittles 9y ago
    "And while both parties gerrymander, only one party engages in the most obvious and egregiously unfair form of it while benefiting overwhelmingly and disproportionately" i like that you said that. ive always said that it wouldn't surprise me if d's try suppress vote if it benefitted them. its just that they are fortunate enough that enfranchisement benefits them and is also the right thing to do. i dont mean to equate r's and d's, but just to reinforce the idea that all parties seek to consolidate power and preserve themselves.
    - fjsolwmv 9y ago
      It's quite convenient that the Democratic party happens to benefit from Democracy. That means their policy positions are correct, and for as long as that continues, they deserve to win.
ouid 9y ago
Yes, but the point is that they don't have to. Look at 2010.

Republicans won the house popular vote 63.1 million to 61.8 million.

the_cat_kittles 9y ago

239 r's 193 d's. the point is that house is gerrymandered to hell and favors r's.

cmurf 9y ago
Gill v. Whitford will be heard in the current term of the U.S. Supreme Court to look at this issue again. It has the potential to make an explosive difference in 2018. Look at the recent Alabama election. A Democrat won most of the votes in the state, and also won most of the votes in every single urban area. And yet applying that state wide vote to the House of Represenatives district map in Alabama, would have still sent one Democrat and six Republicans to House of Representatives in Congress (had it been an election for HoR rather than Senate). Even in the case were Democrats made double digit gains in most counties from the 2016 election, it still would not affect the representation in the House. This is a massive case of voter disenfranchisement. And while both parties gerrymander, only one party engages in the most obvious and egregiously unfair form of it while benefiting overwhelmingly and disproportionately, hence the lawsuit before the Court. And in the Alabama case, it is blatantly racist as well. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ862zWUIAAxWfa.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ862zWUIAAxWfa.jpg
- the_cat_kittles 9y ago
  "And while both parties gerrymander, only one party engages in the most obvious and egregiously unfair form of it while benefiting overwhelmingly and disproportionately" i like that you said that. ive always said that it wouldn't surprise me if d's try suppress vote if it benefitted them. its just that they are fortunate enough that enfranchisement benefits them and is also the right thing to do. i dont mean to equate r's and d's, but just to reinforce the idea that all parties seek to consolidate power and preserve themselves.
  - fjsolwmv 9y ago
    It's quite convenient that the Democratic party happens to benefit from Democracy. That means their policy positions are correct, and for as long as that continues, they deserve to win.

ouid 9y ago

Yes, but the point is that they don't have to. Look at 2010.