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All these allegories are well and good. Explain how repealing net neutrality is in the public good, as that's what your post suggests

ikeboy 9y ago
Start with https://www.recode.net/2017/12/14/16777356/full-transcript-ajit-pai-brendan-carr-fcc-statements-net-neutrality-repeal https://www.recode.net/2017/12/14/16777356/full-transcript-a..., and maybe read through the several hundred pages of arguments and citations at http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db1122/DOC-347927A1.pdf http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017...
- zimmund 9y ago
  Sure, it's easy to drown people with a link and a 210 pages document, but can you briefly explain it with your own words and voice your opinion for us?
  - ikeboy 9y ago
    Personally I defer to economists http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/net-neutrality-ii http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/net-neutrality-ii
    - mcguire 9y ago
      Wait just a gosh-darn minute there... "Considering both distributional effects and changes in efficiency, it is a good idea to let companies that send video or other content to consumers pay more to Internet service providers for the right to send that traffic using faster or higher quality service." I believe Netflix and YouTube and what-not already pay their service providers for the bandwidth they use.
      - ikeboy 9y ago
        Actually they peer directly with last mile ISPs, in some cases for free
      - ikeboy 9y ago
        Neither Netflix nor YouTube would exist if they had to pay for bandwidth at the rate consumers do. If Netflix was sending everything over the regular internet, it would literally break - the only reason Netflix can stream as much as it does is because of caching close to consumers.
- gt_ 9y ago
  Well, I’m a sucker. I just read your very lengthy first link and learned absolutely nothing. The entire statement is questionable anecdotes, unreasoned conclusions and baseless declarations of what is good. What about this text did you find valuable? Please share.
  - ikeboy 9y ago
    >So it’s no surprise that the Wireless Internet Service Providers Association, which represents small fixed wireless companies that typically operate in rural America, surveyed its members and found that over 80% “incurred additional expense in complying with the Title II rules, had delayed or reduced network expansion, had delayed or reduced services and had allocated budget to comply with the rules.” Other small companies, too, have told the FCC that these regulations have forced them to cancel, delay, or curtail fiber network upgrades. And nearly two dozen small providers submitted a letter saying the FCC’s heavy-handed rules “affect our ability to find financing.” Remember, these are the kinds of companies that are critical to providing a more competitive marketplace.

ikeboy 9y ago

Start with https://www.recode.net/2017/12/14/16777356/full-transcript-ajit-pai-brendan-carr-fcc-statements-net-neutrality-repeal https://www.recode.net/2017/12/14/16777356/full-transcript-a..., and maybe read through the several hundred pages of arguments and citations at http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db1122/DOC-347927A1.pdf http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017...

zimmund 9y ago
Sure, it's easy to drown people with a link and a 210 pages document, but can you briefly explain it with your own words and voice your opinion for us?
- ikeboy 9y ago
  Personally I defer to economists http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/net-neutrality-ii http://www.igmchicago.org/surveys/net-neutrality-ii
  - mcguire 9y ago
    Wait just a gosh-darn minute there... "Considering both distributional effects and changes in efficiency, it is a good idea to let companies that send video or other content to consumers pay more to Internet service providers for the right to send that traffic using faster or higher quality service." I believe Netflix and YouTube and what-not already pay their service providers for the bandwidth they use.
    - ikeboy 9y ago
      Actually they peer directly with last mile ISPs, in some cases for free
    - ikeboy 9y ago
      Neither Netflix nor YouTube would exist if they had to pay for bandwidth at the rate consumers do. If Netflix was sending everything over the regular internet, it would literally break - the only reason Netflix can stream as much as it does is because of caching close to consumers.
gt_ 9y ago
Well, I’m a sucker. I just read your very lengthy first link and learned absolutely nothing. The entire statement is questionable anecdotes, unreasoned conclusions and baseless declarations of what is good. What about this text did you find valuable? Please share.
- ikeboy 9y ago
  >So it’s no surprise that the Wireless Internet Service Providers Association, which represents small fixed wireless companies that typically operate in rural America, surveyed its members and found that over 80% “incurred additional expense in complying with the Title II rules, had delayed or reduced network expansion, had delayed or reduced services and had allocated budget to comply with the rules.” Other small companies, too, have told the FCC that these regulations have forced them to cancel, delay, or curtail fiber network upgrades. And nearly two dozen small providers submitted a letter saying the FCC’s heavy-handed rules “affect our ability to find financing.” Remember, these are the kinds of companies that are critical to providing a more competitive marketplace.