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Europe has it's problems, but I don't regret moving to London. Not one bit. The innovation here is real and tangible, by and large unencumbered by this kind o

Europe has it's problems, but I don't regret moving to London. Not one bit. The innovation here is real and tangible, by and large unencumbered by this kind of crap.

snuxoll 9y ago
I really should get the paperwork going for my wife's Italian citizenship, the US national archive sent me an un-certified copy of her grandfathers naturalization papers even though I requested a certified copy and I've been too lazy to try again. Anyone have advice on tech hotspots in the EU that are willing to put up with English-speaking engineers? I've thought about Finland a couple times, good schools for my daughter, ample hunting and fishing opportunities and from what I can tell pretty good broadband infrastructure.
- corford 9y ago
  In no particular order: Berlin, Lisbon, London, Paris (might need a little bit of French), Amsterdam, Dublin. Each one has different pros/cons depending on whats important to you: type of work, money, work/life balance. All of them are good (and, aside from London soon, easy to move between once you're resident in Europe or here on a long visa).
  - snuxoll 9y ago
    > In no particular order: Berlin, Lisbon, London, Paris (might need a little bit of French), Amsterdam, Dublin. Thanks, I'll have to take a look. Still debating whether I'd want to move across the pond from my family, especially with a 5 year old in tow - but I've thought about moving to the EU for roughly 10 years at this point. > (and, aside from London soon, easy to move between once you're resident in Europe or here on a long visa). That part's pretty easy for me, my wife inherited Italian citizenship through her bloodline - we just need to get all the paperwork taken care of to get it recognized.
    - corford 9y ago
      I'm not totally up on this (since I'm English and my wife is French, so Europe is easy for us) but a friend of mine (also English) married an American and I remember it took quite a bit of effort for her to become a dual British citizen and gain full residency. Basically, I'm not 100% sure the fact your wife could gain Italian citizenship will automatically give you full residency/rights too. I might be talking crap but worth checking out. In any case, it's definitely do-able and you should give it a go! Europe's awesome (and v. kid friendly)
verisimilitude 9y ago
My thoughts are similar to yours, but not due to innovation but rather a functioning, humane welfare state. My wife and I have been eyeing up Sweden or Denmark for years. If family wasn't here, we'd have left already.
microcolonel 9y ago
> but I don't regret moving to London. Not one bit. The UK, along with all other commonwealth countries, has no equivalent rules to repeal or support.
- omginternets 9y ago
  They also don't have equivalent regional monopolies on telecom infrastructure, so the problem is very much mitigated.
  - microcolonel 9y ago
    Just don't move to those regions. The United States is the third or fourth largest country in the world by land mass. There are properties you can buy which are inside the range of only one terrestrial ISP, or none at all. Don't do it if access to more than one terrestrial ISP is important to you. Also, I don't know if you're referring specifically to the UK. I happen to have some experience with the ISP situation in Canada, and I can tell you that there are places smack-dab in the middle of the largest city in the country where you only have access to one ISP. There are really only about four, maybe five, functioning terrestrial ISPs in Canada, and in a given city, usually only two operate. I have no idea how sparse it gets out in the sticks, cottage country at least gets LTE. Generally the only terrestrial ISP competition in Canada is between monopolies on roughly either side of the continental divide in telephone DSLs (Bell or Telus, depending on region) and modems on the cable TV infrastructure (Rogers or Shaw, depending on region), a fifth is coming up just in Toronto (Beanfield), time will tell if they can manage to expand the fiber infrastructure enough to grow their business.
jcadam 9y ago
Whenever I become angry about something here in the US and look into emigrating (mostly looking at first-world English speaking countries: CAN, UK, NZ, etc.), my research usually turns up compelling evidence that no country with any sort of socialized health care system (which is pretty much anywhere in the developed world) will accept a person with special needs children. So I'm stuck here, for good or bad.
- microcolonel 9y ago
  None of those countries have equivalent ISP rules either.

Europe has it's problems, but I don't regret moving to London. Not one bit. The innovation here is real and tangible, by and large unencumbered by this kind of crap.

snuxoll 9y ago

I really should get the paperwork going for my wife's Italian citizenship, the US national archive sent me an un-certified copy of her grandfathers naturalization papers even though I requested a certified copy and I've been too lazy to try again. Anyone have advice on tech hotspots in the EU that are willing to put up with English-speaking engineers? I've thought about Finland a couple times, good schools for my daughter, ample hunting and fishing opportunities and from what I can tell pretty good broadband infrastructure.

corford 9y ago
In no particular order: Berlin, Lisbon, London, Paris (might need a little bit of French), Amsterdam, Dublin. Each one has different pros/cons depending on whats important to you: type of work, money, work/life balance. All of them are good (and, aside from London soon, easy to move between once you're resident in Europe or here on a long visa).
- snuxoll 9y ago
  > In no particular order: Berlin, Lisbon, London, Paris (might need a little bit of French), Amsterdam, Dublin. Thanks, I'll have to take a look. Still debating whether I'd want to move across the pond from my family, especially with a 5 year old in tow - but I've thought about moving to the EU for roughly 10 years at this point. > (and, aside from London soon, easy to move between once you're resident in Europe or here on a long visa). That part's pretty easy for me, my wife inherited Italian citizenship through her bloodline - we just need to get all the paperwork taken care of to get it recognized.
  - corford 9y ago
    I'm not totally up on this (since I'm English and my wife is French, so Europe is easy for us) but a friend of mine (also English) married an American and I remember it took quite a bit of effort for her to become a dual British citizen and gain full residency. Basically, I'm not 100% sure the fact your wife could gain Italian citizenship will automatically give you full residency/rights too. I might be talking crap but worth checking out. In any case, it's definitely do-able and you should give it a go! Europe's awesome (and v. kid friendly)

verisimilitude 9y ago

My thoughts are similar to yours, but not due to innovation but rather a functioning, humane welfare state. My wife and I have been eyeing up Sweden or Denmark for years. If family wasn't here, we'd have left already.

microcolonel 9y ago

> but I don't regret moving to London. Not one bit. The UK, along with all other commonwealth countries, has no equivalent rules to repeal or support.

omginternets 9y ago
They also don't have equivalent regional monopolies on telecom infrastructure, so the problem is very much mitigated.
- microcolonel 9y ago
  Just don't move to those regions. The United States is the third or fourth largest country in the world by land mass. There are properties you can buy which are inside the range of only one terrestrial ISP, or none at all. Don't do it if access to more than one terrestrial ISP is important to you. Also, I don't know if you're referring specifically to the UK. I happen to have some experience with the ISP situation in Canada, and I can tell you that there are places smack-dab in the middle of the largest city in the country where you only have access to one ISP. There are really only about four, maybe five, functioning terrestrial ISPs in Canada, and in a given city, usually only two operate. I have no idea how sparse it gets out in the sticks, cottage country at least gets LTE. Generally the only terrestrial ISP competition in Canada is between monopolies on roughly either side of the continental divide in telephone DSLs (Bell or Telus, depending on region) and modems on the cable TV infrastructure (Rogers or Shaw, depending on region), a fifth is coming up just in Toronto (Beanfield), time will tell if they can manage to expand the fiber infrastructure enough to grow their business.

jcadam 9y ago

Whenever I become angry about something here in the US and look into emigrating (mostly looking at first-world English speaking countries: CAN, UK, NZ, etc.), my research usually turns up compelling evidence that no country with any sort of socialized health care system (which is pretty much anywhere in the developed world) will accept a person with special needs children. So I'm stuck here, for good or bad.

microcolonel 9y ago
None of those countries have equivalent ISP rules either.