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Equating Salma's ambition here (make a movie about an important minority historical figure) with Harvey's and then calling it small and selfish? Seriously?

owebmaster 9y ago
Would you encourage every women to complain about sexual harassment before they get the benefits they're looking for? Sexual services are considered crime for a reason, but it's not really enforced.
- orionblastar 9y ago
  It can only be enforced if it is reported to the police and they gather evidence in a timely manner. Like any other crime. If there is no proof or evidence, the trial won't go the way you think it will.
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alexashka 9y ago
You're trying to make it A vs B issue, black and white. This worldview causes outrage, which's incredibly unhelpful and destructive. The whole point is to see the greys. Salma was after breaking out of the Mexican soap opera market, into Hollywood. That was her ambition and she was willing to put up with what she describes as an incredible amount of sexual harassment. Once she had reached fame, she didnt' lead this movement to help other women who are trying to do the same. When you don't have a lot, you don't know any better - I will look the other way. When you're already successful, you want MORE success, put up with a mountain of shit along the way - I can safely say you're very driven to accomplish very trivial things, because integrity and mental health are not chips you play with for more fame unless you're incredibly confused. That's the subtle point that folks who want to paint the world black and white and get outraged by anyone who sees greys keep missing - Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, the list goes on and on, get to be creeps, because people are willing to put up with emotional abuse to 'make it'.
- vmnieowan873 9y ago
  OK, let's get into the grays then. Did you read the article? She didn't put up with Weinstein to get to the point she was at before making Frida. She wasn't looking for fame with this particular film. She wanted to tell an important story. It was something beyond herself. "I did not care about the money," she says. That aside, you do have a point. If people like Hayek would "just say no," and give up on their crazy ambitions this wouldn't ever happen. It's really that simple. That's what you are saying, right?
- ap3 9y ago
  What is missing from your equation is “power” - Weinstein had all the power. Same goes for dictators - Saddam Hussein had all the power, until the equation changed. But a random iraqi soldier in the mid-80s can’t be blamed for having an ambition to not die.

owebmaster 9y ago

Would you encourage every women to complain about sexual harassment before they get the benefits they're looking for? Sexual services are considered crime for a reason, but it's not really enforced.

orionblastar 9y ago
It can only be enforced if it is reported to the police and they gather evidence in a timely manner. Like any other crime. If there is no proof or evidence, the trial won't go the way you think it will.
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alexashka 9y ago

You're trying to make it A vs B issue, black and white. This worldview causes outrage, which's incredibly unhelpful and destructive. The whole point is to see the greys. Salma was after breaking out of the Mexican soap opera market, into Hollywood. That was her ambition and she was willing to put up with what she describes as an incredible amount of sexual harassment. Once she had reached fame, she didnt' lead this movement to help other women who are trying to do the same. When you don't have a lot, you don't know any better - I will look the other way. When you're already successful, you want MORE success, put up with a mountain of shit along the way - I can safely say you're very driven to accomplish very trivial things, because integrity and mental health are not chips you play with for more fame unless you're incredibly confused. That's the subtle point that folks who want to paint the world black and white and get outraged by anyone who sees greys keep missing - Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, the list goes on and on, get to be creeps, because people are willing to put up with emotional abuse to 'make it'.

vmnieowan873 9y ago
OK, let's get into the grays then. Did you read the article? She didn't put up with Weinstein to get to the point she was at before making Frida. She wasn't looking for fame with this particular film. She wanted to tell an important story. It was something beyond herself. "I did not care about the money," she says. That aside, you do have a point. If people like Hayek would "just say no," and give up on their crazy ambitions this wouldn't ever happen. It's really that simple. That's what you are saying, right?
ap3 9y ago
What is missing from your equation is “power” - Weinstein had all the power. Same goes for dictators - Saddam Hussein had all the power, until the equation changed. But a random iraqi soldier in the mid-80s can’t be blamed for having an ambition to not die.