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"it's a market" and "you have to negotiate" can't be stressed enough. hell, the simple fact that you can negotiate should be stressed more.

• omouse 16y ago
  you know what else should be stressed? collective bargaining..it helps sometimes when your fellow coworkers band together to get a raise or to make the work environment better.
  • eru 16y ago
    Do you have experience with collective bargaining? As far as I can tell lots of hackers abhor it.
    • sigstoat 16y ago
      in my experience they abhor what you get when you start handing money and power to the collective, and stop paying attention to what it's doing to you.
    • omouse 16y ago
      They abhor it but they may never have tried it. A lot of other workers have collectively bargained and received higher pay and other non-pay benefits. Also, it's not like you have to form a union or anything. Just collectively bargain for a raise or whatever this one time.
      • eru 16y ago
        Has there ever been a controlled study about whether collective bargaining leads to higher wages in the long run? (Excluding effects like lobbying for restrictions on entering the market.) From what I know, I can't rule out that collective bargaining for higher wage is like advancing the tide with a bucket.