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Oh please, Poland are the only EU country with a spine.

by amiga-workbench 9y ago

lafar6502 9y ago
No spine, greed and fear instead
- amiga-workbench 9y ago
  Perfectly rational fears. They're not pulling a Sweden and censoring politically incorrect truths.
  - gyaru 9y ago
    Yeah, because that sure happened! (no) You're free to link any examples.
    - amiga-workbench 9y ago
      http://www.friatider.se/gigantisk-databas-ver-invandrares-brott-sajten-polisanm-ls http://www.friatider.se/gigantisk-databas-ver-invandrares-br... https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/extremhogersajt-och-nazister-anmalda-for-pul-brott https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/extremhogersajt-och-nazis... This was fairly recent, as I understand it, SVT is the more "reputable" news source and they don't seem to be refuting any of the data. Shortly after the migrant crisis began, Swedish police stopped recording information about the ethnicity of perps.
      - gyaru 9y ago
        Huh, what's the issue with those articles at all? Sweden has laws how you have to handle personal information, a database like that would potentially breach that law. It's basically like a smaller version of GDPR from the EU. How is this governmental censoring? You'd breach the same law if you made a database with people that like Nintendo games. Jeez.
nkkollaw 9y ago
This is (unfortunately?) true, and whoever downvoted you doesn't know Poland well. I'm Italian but live in Poland, and it makes me cringe seeing the difference between a country that has no balls and does whatever Germany-controlled EU asks it to-- despite the huge damages inflicted to its citizen--and a country that puts its citizens first like Poland does. I go to Germany often and besides a few outskirts, Munich feels like some Arab country where you hardly hear any German spoken. Nuremberg could be renamed Little Istanbul and no one would complain. It's a mess. In the meantime, Italy is in even worse conditions because we can't seem to make people respect the law. If you go to any city you'll see dozens of African street vendors selling counterfeit Gucci and Valentino bags undisturbed, in front of actual stores that pay taxes and sell (or try to sell) the real thing. All this to lower the cost of labor (unless you believe the "helping people" lie that politicians tell you). I'm glad Europe exists, but we need some balance between what's good for the community and what individual countries need.

Oh please, Poland are the only EU country with a spine.

lafar6502 9y ago

No spine, greed and fear instead

amiga-workbench 9y ago
Perfectly rational fears. They're not pulling a Sweden and censoring politically incorrect truths.
- gyaru 9y ago
  Yeah, because that sure happened! (no) You're free to link any examples.
  - amiga-workbench 9y ago
    http://www.friatider.se/gigantisk-databas-ver-invandrares-brott-sajten-polisanm-ls http://www.friatider.se/gigantisk-databas-ver-invandrares-br... https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/extremhogersajt-och-nazister-anmalda-for-pul-brott https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/extremhogersajt-och-nazis... This was fairly recent, as I understand it, SVT is the more "reputable" news source and they don't seem to be refuting any of the data. Shortly after the migrant crisis began, Swedish police stopped recording information about the ethnicity of perps.
    - gyaru 9y ago
      Huh, what's the issue with those articles at all? Sweden has laws how you have to handle personal information, a database like that would potentially breach that law. It's basically like a smaller version of GDPR from the EU. How is this governmental censoring? You'd breach the same law if you made a database with people that like Nintendo games. Jeez.

nkkollaw 9y ago

This is (unfortunately?) true, and whoever downvoted you doesn't know Poland well. I'm Italian but live in Poland, and it makes me cringe seeing the difference between a country that has no balls and does whatever Germany-controlled EU asks it to-- despite the huge damages inflicted to its citizen--and a country that puts its citizens first like Poland does. I go to Germany often and besides a few outskirts, Munich feels like some Arab country where you hardly hear any German spoken. Nuremberg could be renamed Little Istanbul and no one would complain. It's a mess. In the meantime, Italy is in even worse conditions because we can't seem to make people respect the law. If you go to any city you'll see dozens of African street vendors selling counterfeit Gucci and Valentino bags undisturbed, in front of actual stores that pay taxes and sell (or try to sell) the real thing. All this to lower the cost of labor (unless you believe the "helping people" lie that politicians tell you). I'm glad Europe exists, but we need some balance between what's good for the community and what individual countries need.