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Cut parents some slack and give children some credit. Everyone is going to be just fine (possibly better) if dad gets a tiny break and junior gets a small taste

Cut parents some slack and give children some credit. Everyone is going to be just fine (possibly better) if dad gets a tiny break and junior gets a small taste of independence.

aluhut 9y ago
This has nothing to do with independence. Kids need the attention of their parent. We are social beings. Those zombie parents kids develop into something the parents will later want to medicate shifting the blame on the kid. In no way will there be something BETTER.
- greglindahl 9y ago
  When I grew up, I had long periods of time during which my parents weren't around. I socialized with other children. Imagine that!
  - aluhut 9y ago
    You are aware that there are playgrounds and ages where parents have to be around their kids are you?
    - greglindahl 9y ago
      I am aware that the rules for that are very different from when I was a child and now.
      - aluhut 9y ago
        It's got nothing to do with rules. It used to be common sense when I grew up. Also, there are bonding mechanisms in all kids that require feedback from a parent in their early years. This is where your parents attention is necessary. This is also where a kid can develop certain problems if they don't get this attention. My SO sees those failures of zombie parents every day at work. The only thing worse is the parents ignorance. Same goes for playgrounds that are in difficult areas or conditions of course.
        greglindahl 9y ago
        Huh. I spent plenty of time with my parents, and plenty of time without. Yet today's "common sense" says that almost everyone in my generation was raised by wolves.
        aluhut 9y ago
        It's common sense that exaggerations and selective ignorance kills discussions.
  - j_s 9y ago
    "Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago" | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15800082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15800082 two weeks ago. I was suprised to see the following wasn't at the top: >baldfat: The problem is that 90% of the time the parents are now on their phones.
- abootstrapper 9y ago
  You're inferring a lot by viewing a parent on their smart phone. RE Independence: I dare say a child can play for some minutes with other children without the need to interact with their parent. In fact, I'd go far as to say, interrupting a child's play is more detrimental than leaving them be and looking at your phone. In either case, I'm sure the parent has more insight than a third party passing by and is making an informed decision.
wj 9y ago
Agreed. I work from home and as such I get to spend much more time with my children than I otherwise would however the cost is that some of that time my attention is going to be divided.

Cut parents some slack and give children some credit. Everyone is going to be just fine (possibly better) if dad gets a tiny break and junior gets a small taste of independence.

aluhut 9y ago

This has nothing to do with independence. Kids need the attention of their parent. We are social beings. Those zombie parents kids develop into something the parents will later want to medicate shifting the blame on the kid. In no way will there be something BETTER.

greglindahl 9y ago
When I grew up, I had long periods of time during which my parents weren't around. I socialized with other children. Imagine that!
- aluhut 9y ago
  You are aware that there are playgrounds and ages where parents have to be around their kids are you?
  - greglindahl 9y ago
    I am aware that the rules for that are very different from when I was a child and now.
    - aluhut 9y ago
      It's got nothing to do with rules. It used to be common sense when I grew up. Also, there are bonding mechanisms in all kids that require feedback from a parent in their early years. This is where your parents attention is necessary. This is also where a kid can develop certain problems if they don't get this attention. My SO sees those failures of zombie parents every day at work. The only thing worse is the parents ignorance. Same goes for playgrounds that are in difficult areas or conditions of course.
      - greglindahl 9y ago
        Huh. I spent plenty of time with my parents, and plenty of time without. Yet today's "common sense" says that almost everyone in my generation was raised by wolves.
        aluhut 9y ago
        It's common sense that exaggerations and selective ignorance kills discussions.
- j_s 9y ago
  "Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago" | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15800082 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15800082 two weeks ago. I was suprised to see the following wasn't at the top: >baldfat: The problem is that 90% of the time the parents are now on their phones.
abootstrapper 9y ago
You're inferring a lot by viewing a parent on their smart phone. RE Independence: I dare say a child can play for some minutes with other children without the need to interact with their parent. In fact, I'd go far as to say, interrupting a child's play is more detrimental than leaving them be and looking at your phone. In either case, I'm sure the parent has more insight than a third party passing by and is making an informed decision.

wj 9y ago

Agreed. I work from home and as such I get to spend much more time with my children than I otherwise would however the cost is that some of that time my attention is going to be divided.