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If US loses net neutrality, people from other countries are also fucked, other governments are likely to follow the US path. Besides let's be honest, 90% of th

If US loses net neutrality, people from other countries are also fucked, other governments are likely to follow the US path. Besides let's be honest, 90% of the useful and interesting internet sites, companies, innovation originate in the US(from my personal experience). If it changes, that's bad for everyone. It will affect startups as well. If you're interested in building an online business based in US, you don't want your site to get throttled.

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Larrikin 9y ago
Do you speak any other language besides English?
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mr_spothawk 9y ago
if the US loses net neutrality, I hope that we'll end up with more than one internet.
NationOfJoe 9y ago
besides a slippery slope argument is the a technical argument why it will be worse outside of the US? does the change only effect the last mile internet consumers or will this effect backbone connections as well? i have seen a lot of stuff about the proposed FCC changes but every time someone asks about how this will effect non-US internet users the reply is always "because the USA is the best and your government will copy us" Don't get me wrong i competently agree with the need for net neutrality, ISP's should not be allowed to throttle or dictate which data you can access or at what speed. I just want to understand the issue better and how it effects the global internet community. I also don't think we should limit action to just the US region, if a website wants to protest let them do it for everyone to see, it might help when the fight starts in what ever country is next (apparently) but they do risk alienating global consumers who frankly don't care about US politics.
- pooloo1 9y ago
  If the US starts selling domain/service packages to customers in the US, what stops them from doing the same to the cross Atlantic fiber lines? Or increasing the costs of services being provided to those lines?
- bo1024 9y ago
  I don't know about the slippery slope argument, but there are lots of economic arguments why people and companies outside the USA should be worried. BBC, Al-Jazeera, any kind of non-USA news site should be terrified of losing US business. They will be an obvious choice to not include in "default" bundles. Any non-US video or music startup (imagine one competing with Netflix) will have no chance of getting off the ground in the USA, one of the biggest potential markets in the world. More nebulous, but a bunch of startups in the USA that would have otherwise succeeded and brought innovation or service to other countries, will not be squashed a fail.
stfwn 9y ago
> other governments are likely to follow the US path. We differ on gun control, social security, health insurance, representative democracy, a plethora of other subjects and soon, net neutrality. > If it changes, it’s bad for everyone. For a moment. But then it’s just bad for the US and great for the EU. > If you’re interested in building an online business based in US, you don’t want your site to get throttled. Exactly. Come to the EU, everyone :-). Seriously though, this the-US-is-the-world attitude is much seen and never warranted.

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Larrikin 9y ago

Do you speak any other language besides English?

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mr_spothawk 9y ago

if the US loses net neutrality, I hope that we'll end up with more than one internet.

NationOfJoe 9y ago

besides a slippery slope argument is the a technical argument why it will be worse outside of the US? does the change only effect the last mile internet consumers or will this effect backbone connections as well? i have seen a lot of stuff about the proposed FCC changes but every time someone asks about how this will effect non-US internet users the reply is always "because the USA is the best and your government will copy us" Don't get me wrong i competently agree with the need for net neutrality, ISP's should not be allowed to throttle or dictate which data you can access or at what speed. I just want to understand the issue better and how it effects the global internet community. I also don't think we should limit action to just the US region, if a website wants to protest let them do it for everyone to see, it might help when the fight starts in what ever country is next (apparently) but they do risk alienating global consumers who frankly don't care about US politics.

pooloo1 9y ago
If the US starts selling domain/service packages to customers in the US, what stops them from doing the same to the cross Atlantic fiber lines? Or increasing the costs of services being provided to those lines?
bo1024 9y ago
I don't know about the slippery slope argument, but there are lots of economic arguments why people and companies outside the USA should be worried. BBC, Al-Jazeera, any kind of non-USA news site should be terrified of losing US business. They will be an obvious choice to not include in "default" bundles. Any non-US video or music startup (imagine one competing with Netflix) will have no chance of getting off the ground in the USA, one of the biggest potential markets in the world. More nebulous, but a bunch of startups in the USA that would have otherwise succeeded and brought innovation or service to other countries, will not be squashed a fail.

stfwn 9y ago

> other governments are likely to follow the US path. We differ on gun control, social security, health insurance, representative democracy, a plethora of other subjects and soon, net neutrality. > If it changes, it’s bad for everyone. For a moment. But then it’s just bad for the US and great for the EU. > If you’re interested in building an online business based in US, you don’t want your site to get throttled. Exactly. Come to the EU, everyone :-). Seriously though, this the-US-is-the-world attitude is much seen and never warranted.