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You are welcome to your views, and they may be certainly valid, but I need to point out that you used some sensational language without providing any references
by kaycebasques 9y ago
You are welcome to your views, and they may be certainly valid, but I need to point out that you used some sensational language without providing any references.
Edit: I generally agree that SF has many management problems, I just take issue with how this comment was framed. Specifically: "social justice backlash", "villainize hard working Americans", "victimize criminals". I just think that it'd be more constructive if we discussed SF without imposing such a narrow view on a complicated topic. By "references" I meant that it'd be helpful if we had some stories or articles that substantiates these claims of "social justice backlash", "villainizing Americans", "victimizing criminals". Of course it's all relative and I have my own subjective perspective on everything, but I do believe that it's possible for us to discuss this topic without resorting to phrases that trigger knee-jerk emotional responses.
- g09980 9y agoAs someone also previously living in SF, I did not find his post sensational.
- hkmurakami 9y agoregarding victimizing criminals, I found the recent trial of the Katherine Steinle to be very surprising, yet perhaps emblematic of the city's climate. http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/jury-reaches-verdict-san-francisco-pier-shooting-51497691 http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/jury-reaches-v...
- sjburt 9y agoBefore trying to draw a conclusion, you should read this article by one of the (alternate) jurors who lays exactly how and why the prosecution fell short of proving the charges they made. It had absolutely nothing do with the identity of the defendant or the victim. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/06/kate-steinle-murder-trial-jury-didnt-botch-216016 https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/06/kate-stei... Unless, of course, you mean to suggest that juries outside of SF are more apt to ignore the law and the evidence presented.
- stretchwithme 9y agoIf he'd followed the law, this would never have happened. He needs to be somewhere where he can't harm somebody else.
- asveikau 9y agoSo somebody else would have found the stolen gun on the sidewalk.
- jblow 9y agoAs someone who lived in SF for 24 years and is probably moving back, I will say that SF is a total dump and needs help badly.
- kaycebasques 9y agoAs someone who lives here now, I did. Specifically: "social justice backlash", "villainize hard working Americans", "victimize criminals". Edit: I mostly just take issue with how the comment was framed. I agree that SF has many management issues.
- xster 9y agoGenuinely curious. I think these things are all kinda relative anyway. What's the frame of reference / point of comparison?
- xster 9y agoThis may be totally flippant but I feel like to be constructive in this case, the 'reference' totally depends on the target audience's travel experiences. In the simplest case, the 'reference' could just be to live in other cities (not like L.A.). Specifically other cities that weren't all that much in the past decades and had progress in recent years, more or less as an antithesis of SF which I'd categorize as a city that was ahead of its time in 50 years ago and let the hype get too deeply engrained in its psyche and culture and stagnated since, out of a sense of isolation and self superiority. If you lived in other places and disagree, the meat of our discussion would take entirely different paths.
- kyleblarson 9y agoKate Steinle unfortunately can't share her story.